What would you prefer

[JakodaCD OA]

my vote is neither as well, but if I HAD to choose it would be the reg'd dog.

[mandiah89]

I dont want anyone to get me wrong here... I myself go for dogs who are papered, but also are cert. for health, but there are lots of breeders who's dogs are papered but they could care less about the health...

[Shade]

Buying a breed with known issues has it's risks no matter what

You LIMIT those risks by buying from a breeder with dogs that are health certified and temperament tested whose parents, grandparents, and great grandparents, etc were all certified and tested as well

Not to mention if something does go wrong there are guarantees that most breeders will give you that last two years or longer. Also, if there's any issues you don't have to worry about rehoming as the breeder will take it back. The lifelong commitment and help a good breeder supplies is just as beneficial as the dog itself

To me buying from a responsible breeder makes me feel better and safer for my own benefit and the dogs, not superior to those who don't. I will never buy from a BYB, puppymill, or petstore. I will either buy from a responsible breeder or rescue

[GatorDog]

Originally Posted by mandiah89

I dont want anyone to get me wrong here... I myself go for dogs who are papered, but also are cert. for health, but there are lots of breeders who's dogs are papered but they could care less about the health...

And those people are just as irresponsible as the people breeding without registration papers.


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[LeoRose]

Nice to know that I'm an "uppiedy up". I don't care for either of the two choices you've laid out. If I'm buying a dog, whether another GSD, a Doberman, or any other breed (even a Chihuahua), I'd want one from registered, titled, and health tested parents.

I've frequently noticed that puppy sellers who say "papers don't matter" or "titles don't matter" usually don't do anything with their dogs other than breeding them.

[Nikitta]

How about a dog with a long pedigree with no papers? I have Xerxes pedigree but because of some dispute with the AKC with his mother's mother, I can't register him.

[Gharrissc]

If I were purchasing a puppy,I would say that I would choose neither. If it were a dog that was 'free' then I would give it a home.

[Lilie]

Neither. The world is full of unwanted dogs. Why add to the problem?

[I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO]

Neither. I wouldn't support either breeder-why not rescue a healthy adult if you can't get papers anyway. You can even get the dog's hips x-rayed first

[martemchik]

I think you'd have to look long and hard for a breeder that doesn't have papers on his dogs but does all those health checks. Someone that doesn't care enough to have a pedigree on the dogs they're producing/using and yet they'll spend hundreds of dollars in order to get their hips certified and their DNA is clear of other known issues? Won't happen...

What's the point in breeding a dog without papers? It's kind of saying that the dog is so great...and amazing...although it hasn't been trialed or titled, that it needs to be bred and pass on its DNA over the 1000s of other dogs out there that are papered and titled. How does someone breeding a dog without papers know that their dog is genetically and physiologically superior to its peers and should be bred? They don't!