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Old 01-03-2013, 02:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'd question why the breeder wants to use one of her own puppies as a stud. In theory she should already have everything he could bring genetically to the pool in her lines. He won't be proven, no show accomplishments to rate him against others in his breed, and no health certs. She then wants to use him twice a year? Very rarely does a good breeder breed to the same dog that often, and only after they have seen what that dog has produced in the past.

Don't take this the wrong way...but what makes you think that she's a reputable Malamute breeder?
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Who is the breeder?

Unless you've shown or worked this dog, I don't know how she can say he's worth breeding. Honestly. Any dog can look pretty. What health tests has he had done? How old is he anyway?
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If she is a reputable breeder and does everything right, you're not inconvenienced by this, and the dog is breedworthy... I don't see why not.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'd question why the breeder wants to use one of her own puppies as a stud. In theory she should already have everything he could bring genetically to the pool in her lines. He won't be proven, no show accomplishments to rate him against others in his breed, and no health certs. She then wants to use him twice a year? Very rarely does a good breeder breed to the same dog that often, and only after they have seen what that dog has produced in the past.

Don't take this the wrong way...but what makes you think that she's a reputable Malamute breeder?

I see what you are saying, and trust me I don't take it the wrong way. That's why I asked for your opinions

Well, to me the reason why I considered her a reputable breeder is because
a good breeder to me is the one who breed the healthiers puppies possible.
They screen homes carefully, tell you both the pros and cons about owning that type of breed. They provide support for owners and should a home not workout, either they help find a pup a new home or take it back. She made sure of all that in our contract agreement. I compare her to the lady I got my GSD from and the experience was completly different. Schatzi my GSD came from a backyard breeder. At that point I had no knowledge about the differences. However, now understand and thanks to you guys I have gained tons of knowledge when it comes to not just owning a dog, but dealing with breeder and picking one.
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The con would be the potential for infection (would she guarantee a brucellosis check), injury by one of her females, and he would be more keyed into looking for the ladies on his own.

Would she also pay for the x-rays and ofa certification and other possible health screenings that a reputable breeder would demand?
This. The cons - listed above. Are the parents OFA certified? If not, she's not as "reputable" as you're thinking.

Pros? Money. That's about it. And is the money worth having a dog that's walking around looking for breeding prospects? Many dogs left intact and used in this manner are more prone to behavior issues such as marking, and what's listed above, not fun for the average pet owner.

If you are an average pet owner (most of us probably are, not a bad thing!), get him neutered as planned.
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I'm really, really confused. You posted pics of him near Dec, he looks about 3-4 months old. There is no way she can say she wants him as a stud dog this early! That is not reputable IMO. And I wouldn't do it, if you want to breed him, prove his worth, health and conformation, and a couple years down the road, use a bitch from a reputable kennel.

This isn't even a rarer breed of a dog, you can find them in most animal shelters, I could almost understand if this was a Kangal in the USA or something, but Mals are common dogs and so there is no reason to skimp on breeding right.


*I'm not trying to be rude, but I really don't think your breeder is as good as she portrays, and there is no need for more dogs running around breeding.
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The females owner normally goes to the male....the male should have breed specific health clearances at the VERY LEAST if she is a reputable breeder. It is purely for her convenience that you would be taking or leaving your male with her for the breeding....and yes, that would be very convenient for her!!! If you don't have a problem with it, I don't see that it is a big deal - but just realize that this is for HER convenience and if he was breed worthy and others wanted to use him, you don't just leave your dog with whoever has a female in heat!

For a male with no health clearances, no show record or titles, $500 is a very generous stud fee IMO....

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Well it is for her convinience, even if he was breed worthy I cannot breed him with any other person other than the breeder because I don't have breeding rights according to our agreement.
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If I were to pretend that my dog was breedworthy and I had a reputable breeder whom I trusted, I would much rather send my male to the breeder. They would be the expert on the subject.

I wouldn't send my male to a client of the breeder or someone I didn't know.

Just IMO - If I were to spread my dog's genes around, I'd want to make sure that the offspring would be notable for the breed. I'd have to trust that the breeder knew what they were doing in pairing the two. I wouldn't want my dog's name forever attached to poop.
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This. The cons - listed above. Are the parents OFA certified? If not, she's not as "reputable" as you're thinking.

Pros? Money. That's about it. And is the money worth having a dog that's walking around looking for breeding prospects? Many dogs left intact and used in this manner are more prone to behavior issues such as marking, and what's listed above, not fun for the average pet owner.

If you are an average pet owner (most of us probably are, not a bad thing!), get him neutered as planned.

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The parents aren't OFA certified. I learned something new to day. I may have used the word "reputable" a bit loose here. =/

Yes I am an average pet owner, and to be honest with you I think I will just stick to my plan of neautering him.
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Your puppy isn't even 6 months old and he's the best dog your breeder has ever produced? Why and how did she come up with that conclusion?

And I'm not a Malamute person, but what kind of testing and titling does that breed do prior to breeding? I'd start with that stuff before even considering breeding.
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