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This seems like someone trying to justify the decision to breed their dogs.
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Well there are no such things as "oops" and the cavalier manner in which this was posted is quite probably a clue.
If you "grew up on a farm", you already know how to create babies and how to prevent such. |
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I think, in some (not most) circumstances, there are "oops" or accidental litters.
My grandpa had a cattle dog. When she came into her first heat, he locked her in the shed when the other dogs when out to work. A neighbor's bulldog literally CHEWED through the wall into the shed and bred her. So, in some extreme circumstances, I do believe that there are accidental litters. I believe they're seldom purebred, though. That's too convenient.
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Even then...a spay works wonders to keep the boys at bay
![]() And if you're honest about not wanting puppies most vets will perform a "pregnant spay" early on, some up to the delivery day. And breeders who experience an "oops" have the option to give their girls a shot (that makes conception impossible) I believe. Or last I knew, they did. |
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You can do a spay/abort. They will spay the bitch and humanely euthanize the puppies when they remove them.
The mismate shot is still around but has the potential for serious complications. If you decide to whelp the pups I would recommend having them spayed/neutered before placing them in their new homes. Your opinions on "papers" and breeders are just that - YOUR opinions. The facts are completely different.
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The problem with breeding "blindly", by that I mean with now history of health or genetic or temperment defects is a breed like GSDs... who have TONS of these things, is very risky. I'm not one whos going to bash about this. I'm not a breeder or an expert. I have had backyard breeder dogs that were perfect and wonderful. Just be aware: GSDs as a breed have an extremely high risk of serious, painful, heart breaking health issues if you are not very careful. Your dogs can be perfectly beautiful and healthy, but carry a gene that will cause major pain and suffering in a good percentage of their pups, and break peoples hearts trying to help them. I don't think ANYONE who loves a GSD wants to contribute to these problems in the breed. (thats why people hit the warpath on this subject) Papers don't mean a thing... knowing the history of problems, be it healthwise or "mental" in the families of the dogs you are breeding means ALOT. I wish you luck. I had a couple litters in the long ago past... my bitch was fine with me being around, but anyone else the 1st couple weeks got too close and she would have KILLED them, so just pay attention to what your girl is telling you. Mine was not any different while pregnant (and got in a horrible fight with a Rottie protecting our kids just a week before whelp..
) Make sure to read up on nutrition for preggers bitches
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Your posts have made your reality very clear.
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