I would like to stud out my GS

Nano · 08-09-2011, 02:08 AM

I am near Phx Az and would like to stud out my German Shepard. He is 5 yrs old, sable about 120 lbs. He is from a very reputable breeder in Washington St.

codmaster · 08-09-2011, 02:13 AM

Why? Is he an exceptional, titled dog?

Nano · 08-09-2011, 02:17 AM

He is a beautiful dog with exceptional bloodlines. I am not a breeder but I would like to stud him out a couple of times before i neuter him.

e.rigby · 08-09-2011, 02:22 AM

Have you titled him in anything? What have you done with your dog to prove he's an exceptional specimen of the German Shepherd breed? Almost all GSD's have champions in their pedigrees; however, when a litter of pups is born, very few make the cut when it comes to those who should be bred.

How do you know your dog isn't dysplasic, or has some other genetic fault? Have you had a judge critique your dog's structure/confirmation? Have you trained your dog, competed in the obedience ring? Schutzhund? Personal protection training?

codmaster · 08-09-2011, 02:25 AM

Why? What is he going to add to the gene pool (other than being beautiful in your eyes?

Has he proven himself either in performance or in the conformation ring, preferably in both but at least in one of them. Until he does, he shouldn't be bred (unless you want to be called a BYB!).

The world doesn't need any more pet quality GSD's - do yuo have firm reservations for each of the potential puppies (and the enormous amount of $$$$$ it will take to raise them to at least 8 weeks old)?

I really ask you to reconsider your plan to breed your dog!

Nano · 08-09-2011, 02:33 AM

We got him from Kraftwerk k9. He had a passing hip certification. We purchased him as a family pet and did a couple of weeks of training. He's never been titled or judged. He is AKCed registered. He has a great temperment.

Nano · 08-09-2011, 02:47 AM

I'm just trying to get for some info. I think this dog is worth passing on his bloodlines. I have no interest in keeping the pups or selling them. I am not looking to make it a business. Just passing on a beautiful dog

CookieTN · 08-09-2011, 02:57 AM

I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some other members here, but I used to do quite a bit of research on things like this. I'm rather rusty on my facts, but I do know that there is a bit more to breeding, even studding, than most people realize.
How well does he stack up to the breed standard?
I don't remember all the health tests needed for a German Shepherd other than hip/elbow evaluations, but I can tell you that those are not the only tests that should be done.
AKC registration says very little about how good or bad his genetics are, or whether he should be bred or not.
Performance titles, and doing well in performance is important, too. It helps to prove that he is bodily sound, for one thing.

Don't take all this wrong, this is the kind of thing that needs to be considered before deciding to stud a dog out. I don't mean to seem rude. Other members will no doubt tell you much more than I could hope to at this point.

Lucy Dog · 08-09-2011, 03:05 AM

Can you post his pedigree?

You said you think his bloodlines are worth passing, but why? We all love our dogs, but what makes this specific dog worth breeding that his breeder (kraftwerk K9) isn't providing? Are they not breeding anymore? Are they aware of your intentions to breed?

You said he was AKC registered, but what kind of registration does he have? You said he was purchased as a family pet... most family pets are only registered as "limited" and not "full" registration. If you breed a "limited" dog... the AKC will not allow you to register the litter.

Nano · 08-09-2011, 03:09 AM

Thank you for the info.

08-09-2011, 02:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nano New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 10	I would like to stud out my GS I am near Phx Az and would like to stud out my German Shepard. He is 5 yrs old, sable about 120 lbs. He is from a very reputable breeder in Washington St.

08-09-2011, 02:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
e.rigby Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 498	Have you titled him in anything? What have you done with your dog to prove he's an exceptional specimen of the German Shepherd breed? Almost all GSD's have champions in their pedigrees; however, when a litter of pups is born, very few make the cut when it comes to those who should be bred. How do you know your dog isn't dysplasic, or has some other genetic fault? Have you had a judge critique your dog's structure/confirmation? Have you trained your dog, competed in the obedience ring? Schutzhund? Personal protection training? __________________ Virgil, CGC - GSD Tara, Reagan, Madison, and Jefferson - Aussies Socrates - the cat The birds: Dante - CAG / Sammie - Blue fronted Amazon / Gavin - TAG / Nero and Sunshine - Budgies

08-09-2011, 02:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
CookieTN Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South/East Georgia Posts: 1,106	I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some other members here, but I used to do quite a bit of research on things like this. I'm rather rusty on my facts, but I do know that there is a bit more to breeding, even studding, than most people realize. How well does he stack up to the breed standard? I don't remember all the health tests needed for a German Shepherd other than hip/elbow evaluations, but I can tell you that those are not the only tests that should be done. AKC registration says very little about how good or bad his genetics are, or whether he should be bred or not. Performance titles, and doing well in performance is important, too. It helps to prove that he is bodily sound, for one thing. Don't take all this wrong, this is the kind of thing that needs to be considered before deciding to stud a dog out. I don't mean to seem rude. Other members will no doubt tell you much more than I could hope to at this point. __________________ ~Tiffany "We represent a generation that wants to turn back a nation"~from 'Looking for Angels' by Skillet Rest in peace, Cookie (1998-2011) Last edited by CookieTN; 08-09-2011 at 02:59 AM.

08-09-2011, 03:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,180	Can you post his pedigree? You said you think his bloodlines are worth passing, but why? We all love our dogs, but what makes this specific dog worth breeding that his breeder (kraftwerk K9) isn't providing? Are they not breeding anymore? Are they aware of your intentions to breed? You said he was AKC registered, but what kind of registration does he have? You said he was purchased as a family pet... most family pets are only registered as "limited" and not "full" registration. If you breed a "limited" dog... the AKC will not allow you to register the litter. __________________ Paul Last edited by Lucy Dog; 08-09-2011 at 03:08 AM.

08-09-2011, 02:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
codmaster Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: California, US Posts: 4,762	Why? Is he an exceptional, titled dog?

08-09-2011, 02:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nano New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 10	He is a beautiful dog with exceptional bloodlines. I am not a breeder but I would like to stud him out a couple of times before i neuter him.

08-09-2011, 02:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
codmaster Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: California, US Posts: 4,762	Why? What is he going to add to the gene pool (other than being beautiful in your eyes? Has he proven himself either in performance or in the conformation ring, preferably in both but at least in one of them. Until he does, he shouldn't be bred (unless you want to be called a BYB!). The world doesn't need any more pet quality GSD's - do yuo have firm reservations for each of the potential puppies (and the enormous amount of $$$$$ it will take to raise them to at least 8 weeks old)? I really ask you to reconsider your plan to breed your dog!

08-09-2011, 02:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nano New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 10	We got him from Kraftwerk k9. He had a passing hip certification. We purchased him as a family pet and did a couple of weeks of training. He's never been titled or judged. He is AKCed registered. He has a great temperment.

08-09-2011, 02:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nano New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 10	I'm just trying to get for some info. I think this dog is worth passing on his bloodlines. I have no interest in keeping the pups or selling them. I am not looking to make it a business. Just passing on a beautiful dog

08-09-2011, 03:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nano New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 10	Thank you for the info.

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