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Join Date: Aug 2010
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I never agreed with this the second I found out about it and its one of the reasons I left volunteering at this rescue.
She rescues dogs and complains when people dont spay/neuter. I found out she wanted to breed her "pure bred" Shepherd (reason why pure bred is in quotes is the dog isnt papered so I say pure bred lightly). The dog has no titles nothing. When I emailed her as an interested poster from my account she doesnt know to ask a few basic questions I was able to find out the dog has had no x rays, was from a BYB, wasnt papered or titled. Basically the dog wasnt breed worthy. I found out she went ahead and bred the dog not once but twice. She had 2 litters, each litter she went bat crazy when it was taken from her. Her reason was my friends and family wanted a pup from her. I told her perhaps her family should go adopt a Shepherd pup from a rescue or shelter and save its life rather then buy one from you. My question is, the reason I was so bothered was this person runs a rescue. She rescues and trains dogs and all that. Was it ethical to breed her unpapered Shepherd when she sings the spay neuter song to every one else? I can understand if the dog was papered, health cleared and the whole bit, but she wasnt. Here she is rescuing dogs, complaining about people who breed unregistered dogs that have no health tests and here she is doing it herself. She thinks because shes a rescue its okay she breeds her dog. Thoughts? I know a few people who stopped fostering for her because of this. She was needing more foster homes to get down to the legal limit of dogs our city wants in rescues. Where these foster homes could of been used for more rescues instead of clearing up space for her puppies. |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Texas
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Unfortunately, in our world, there are many hypocrites, and she just happens to be one. I don't think there is much to do, since it is not illegal to breed your dog. The fact that you brought her behavior to question is as far as you can go. We can only hope one day, she will realize of the many lives she helped bring into this world has been added to great population of dogs, and that there is a percentage statistically they may end up abandoned at shelters or rescues, or worst yet, overbred.
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Well I dont think shes licensed under the city by law to run a rescue. I would have to find out somehow. Breeders and rescues must run under a kennel license which costs I think $500 a year. This fee includes the licensing of any dogs you get in.
I also do not think shes a registered not for profit and she asks for donations. so maybe I could look into these to see. This isn the only things shes done I have witnessed. Two other things were she claimed dogs had vasectomies when they really didnt, adopted them out charging the owner for this so called vasectomy and this adopted dog that shouldnt be able to produce has sired a litter or two. The other think was she buys puppies from people who want them gone and turns around and sells them for $350-$450 and the ONLY thing shes done was de worm them herself. She pays like $20 a pup from litters like these. So shes not an honest rescue. So maybe I will make a call to the city bylaw Tuesday and find out if theres anything that could be done. |
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: East Central SK
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If a person meets the requirements for being ethical and responsible in their breeding practices I do not see why it would be a horrible thing to breed if they rescue. In fact, for me to consider someone responsible on the breeding side, they also have to be active on the rescue side at least as far as taking their own pups back. They get far and above kudos if they are active with a rescue group.
From what is posted, breeding an unregistered, untested, untitled dog, the breeder already would not make it onto my list of responsible & ethical breeders. If she is working with a group and not independently I might make sure they are aware of these breedings. With the new info, she doesn't even sound like a reputable rescue either. Fail. Last edited by angelas; 07-31-2011 at 01:41 PM. Reason: new info |
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Old Lyme, CT USA
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I believe there is a site, a Do Not Adopt maybe? that you can list such things on, or maybe it's just rescues that can list..
If she's supposed to be licensed, I'd turn her butt in with the complaints you have posted..unfortunately there are people who do this it's all about money
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I wouldn't even call her a rescue. She is just a hypocritical BYB out for money.
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I guess I would not agree with this particular person breeding this particular dog, but in general I do not see breeding and rescue as mutually exclusive. There are many great breeders that also help with rescue (and not just taking back dogs from their own breedings). Knowledgeable, purpose-driven breeding and rescue serve two different purposed. I have acquired animals both from rescues and from breeders. To me it would be hypocritical to hold breeders to a different standard than myself. JMHO
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I also want to add that I am all for a good breeder helping with rescue. But if this person is breeding their rescue, that is not right.
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Her dog isnt a rescue. She bought her Shepherd from a BYB and bred it. No health tests, no titles..nothing.
But she complains when other people breed their pets. I think I may give a tip to the local by law department on Tuesday. I cant Monday as its the Civic Holiday. The breeder I bought my Rottie from actively rescues Rotties and Rottie mixes and she breeds her own two once a year but her dog are shown, titled and pass OFA etc.So I am fine with that. But not someone like the rescue I mentioned |
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