Long coats

GSDGunner · 03-15-2011, 05:03 PM

Can anyone tell me how long after birth it takes to determine if a pup is a long coat?
My friend Michele (and owner to Gunner's sister) is getting a new pup and the litter is 3 days old. The breeder told her she may have some long coats and she does not want one.
So how long does it take to determine this and can they tell a long coat from a plush coat?

Lin · 03-15-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GSDGunner

So how long does it take to determine this and can they tell a long coat from a plush coat?

There is no such thing as plush coat, genetically. Its a slang term for when the coat appears to be inbetween stock and long stock.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 03-15-2011, 05:17 PM

An experienced breeder who frequently has coaties pop up in their litters can usually tell earlier than a breeder who rarely does. I've known of breeders who can tell by around 4 weeks old and are always right, one says she closes her eyes and feels the fur if she's not completely sure yet. I know of other pups where by 8 or 9 weeks nobody is completely sure how it will turn out!

Your friend's breeder is almost certainly basing her prediction on previous litters by the parents - if both of them are known carriers of the recessive gene, it's likely there will be a coatie or two in the bunch. I don't think ANYONE can tell when a puppy is just a few days old.

GSDGunner · 03-15-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lin

There is no such thing as plush coat, genetically. Its a slang term for when the coat appears to be inbetween stock and long stock.

Sorry, I know nothing regarding coats. But thanks for the explanation.

lisgje · 03-15-2011, 06:06 PM

Shane was long haired and stunning! I could tell at 10 wks when I got him. Much more fluffy, had tufts on his ears and longer hair on his feet.

Stosh · 03-15-2011, 06:09 PM

Stosh is long coated and the breeder was fairly certain at about 4 wks that he would be and by the time I picked him up at 8 wks it was more obvious. There were 3 out of the litter of 6.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 03-15-2011, 06:11 PM

Can you spot the longcoat/s in this picture of Dena's litter?

How many are there?

GSDAlphaMom · 03-15-2011, 06:14 PM

I say two...the loner in the back and the green collar.

GSDAlphaMom · 03-15-2011, 06:14 PM

Oh forgot to mention..they are soooo cute!

**Cassidy's Mom** · 03-15-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GSDAlphaMom

I say two...the loner in the back and the green collar.

Winner!

The loner is Dena, here she is at a month old - you can see that the breeder has already identified her as a fuzzy, what she calls the LCs

Green collar was Mr. Fuzzy.

03-15-2011, 05:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
GSDGunner Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Near Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 2,194	Long coats Can anyone tell me how long after birth it takes to determine if a pup is a long coat? My friend Michele (and owner to Gunner's sister) is getting a new pup and the litter is 3 days old. The breeder told her she may have some long coats and she does not want one. So how long does it take to determine this and can they tell a long coat from a plush coat? __________________ Linda & Gunner 9/14/08 "Do not make the mistake of treating your dogs like humans or they will treat you like dogs." - Martha Scott http://www.youtube.com/GSDGunner

03-15-2011, 05:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,946	An experienced breeder who frequently has coaties pop up in their litters can usually tell earlier than a breeder who rarely does. I've known of breeders who can tell by around 4 weeks old and are always right, one says she closes her eyes and feels the fur if she's not completely sure yet. I know of other pups where by 8 or 9 weeks nobody is completely sure how it will turn out! Your friend's breeder is almost certainly basing her prediction on previous litters by the parents - if both of them are known carriers of the recessive gene, it's likely there will be a coatie or two in the bunch. I don't think ANYONE can tell when a puppy is just a few days old. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

03-15-2011, 06:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,946	Can you spot the longcoat/s in this picture of Dena's litter? How many are there? __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

03-15-2011, 06:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
lisgje Master Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 750	Shane was long haired and stunning! I could tell at 10 wks when I got him. Much more fluffy, had tufts on his ears and longer hair on his feet.

03-15-2011, 06:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stosh Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: tyler texas Posts: 8,434	Stosh is long coated and the breeder was fairly certain at about 4 wks that he would be and by the time I picked him up at 8 wks it was more obvious. There were 3 out of the litter of 6.

03-15-2011, 06:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
GSDAlphaMom Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,227	I say two...the loner in the back and the green collar.

03-15-2011, 06:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
GSDAlphaMom Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,227	Oh forgot to mention..they are soooo cute!

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