Locked in Prey - Page 16

Lucky Paw · 11-16-2012, 09:11 PM

my male gsd is like that with cats he went thru a fence and bent the door after one and his soccer ball the only way he will let go is when i grab the collar and say "leave it". he takes exiting bites long he looks to catch grip with the mullers reather then the k9s his bites are really deep and he keeps biting up locks pulls then bites more into the prey and does the same .

Wild Wolf · 11-16-2012, 09:34 PM

Who resurrected this gem of a thread?! So deliciously informative...

debbiebrown · 11-17-2012, 06:37 PM

i wonder if we are feeding the prey drive on a daily basis with our working dogs. this isn't exactly on subject, but i got thinking, how many of us rehearse playing retrieve every day with a ball, toy, whatever. i am thinking that is practice for running after prey., feeding the prey drive...........not that it has anything to to with the genetic thing that Cliff mentioned..........but you can certainly bring the prey excitement out by rehearsing running for toys and getting the excitement level up. most working dogs must have a degree of prey drive but i wonder if we didn't do any retrieving or training to bring it out in our dogs if the prey drive could be kept at bay., even in over the top genetic drives.........i know working a dog in certain activities the a degree of prey drive is needed, but can you reverse these over the top prey genetics or balance things by not bringing it out through play/training in that area. call me crazy, maybe to much thinking.....

Catu · 11-17-2012, 08:04 PM

Actually... that is prey drive and certainly you develop what already comes genetically by playing and training. Chasing cats is more like crittering. I have high prey drive dogs than can sleep next to the cat and at the same time I'm boarding a Siberian husky that you could not teach not to chase the chickens, but wouldn't run after a ball or tug if his life depended on it.

robk · 11-18-2012, 09:03 PM

We have a dog at our club that goes back to Fero 7 times in 8 generations. I have heard him bark maybe twice in a year. All he does is scream like a banshee while being worked in protection. He is also completely fixated on the sleeve. Zero interest in the helper. Now from the video's I have watched of Fero, he did not seam to be this way. He seamed to be a solid dog with some good fight in him. What is it about the back masking that brings this psychotic prey drive out?

cliffson1 · 11-18-2012, 11:20 PM

Been telling people this for years....but when the sport bug bites; people lose sight of balance

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x11 · 11-18-2012, 11:35 PM

maybe if sport eg schutshund was just about achieving a standard and maybe high, medium, or low in the standard and not have a point system there would be no need to go to extreme breeding practices to get dogs capable of that extra point.

of course you would not have a winner as such just dogs proven to work at a high standard.

debbiebrown · 11-19-2012, 06:26 AM

i have a Fero and Tiekerhook decendant, and i can see what Cliff is talking about.

pets4life · 11-20-2012, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robk

We have a dog at our club that goes back to Fero 7 times in 8 generations. I have heard him bark maybe twice in a year. All he does is scream like a banshee while being worked in protection. He is also completely fixated on the sleeve. Zero interest in the helper. Now from the video's I have watched of Fero, he did not seam to be this way. He seamed to be a solid dog with some good fight in him. What is it about the back masking that brings this psychotic prey drive out?

yeah i saw a ddr dog like this also he never barks but he just screams when he sees he gets to bite lol

A guy that saw this said his ddr dog did it also lol

god i hate that scream, imagine if your dog did that? lol how annoying it would be

robk · 11-20-2012, 10:55 AM

The funny thing is, everyone at the club praises that dog becuase he has so much drive.

11-16-2012, 09:11 PM	#151 (permalink)
Lucky Paw Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: tampa FL Posts: 152	my male gsd is like that with cats he went thru a fence and bent the door after one and his soccer ball the only way he will let go is when i grab the collar and say "leave it". he takes exiting bites long he looks to catch grip with the mullers reather then the k9s his bites are really deep and he keeps biting up locks pulls then bites more into the prey and does the same . __________________ Teddy 12-4-11 Chuly 9-17-12

11-16-2012, 09:34 PM	#152 (permalink)
Wild Wolf Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,935	Who resurrected this gem of a thread?! So deliciously informative... __________________ ~ Angel SG S-Hunter vom Geistwasser CGN TT (DM Clear) AIRPORT WILDLIFE & BIRD CONTROL K9 http://www.k9instinct.com

11-17-2012, 06:37 PM	#153 (permalink)
debbiebrown Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: maine Posts: 7,743	i wonder if we are feeding the prey drive on a daily basis with our working dogs. this isn't exactly on subject, but i got thinking, how many of us rehearse playing retrieve every day with a ball, toy, whatever. i am thinking that is practice for running after prey., feeding the prey drive...........not that it has anything to to with the genetic thing that Cliff mentioned..........but you can certainly bring the prey excitement out by rehearsing running for toys and getting the excitement level up. most working dogs must have a degree of prey drive but i wonder if we didn't do any retrieving or training to bring it out in our dogs if the prey drive could be kept at bay., even in over the top genetic drives.........i know working a dog in certain activities the a degree of prey drive is needed, but can you reverse these over the top prey genetics or balance things by not bringing it out through play/training in that area. call me crazy, maybe to much thinking..... __________________ url

11-17-2012, 08:04 PM	#154 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,538	Actually... that is prey drive and certainly you develop what already comes genetically by playing and training. Chasing cats is more like crittering. I have high prey drive dogs than can sleep next to the cat and at the same time I'm boarding a Siberian husky that you could not teach not to chase the chickens, but wouldn't run after a ball or tug if his life depended on it. __________________ Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; IPO-A1

11-18-2012, 11:20 PM	#156 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,872	Been telling people this for years....but when the sport bug bites; people lose sight of balance.

11-18-2012, 09:03 PM	#155 (permalink)
robk Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,534	We have a dog at our club that goes back to Fero 7 times in 8 generations. I have heard him bark maybe twice in a year. All he does is scream like a banshee while being worked in protection. He is also completely fixated on the sleeve. Zero interest in the helper. Now from the video's I have watched of Fero, he did not seam to be this way. He seamed to be a solid dog with some good fight in him. What is it about the back masking that brings this psychotic prey drive out?

11-18-2012, 11:35 PM	#157 (permalink)
x11 Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,256	maybe if sport eg schutshund was just about achieving a standard and maybe high, medium, or low in the standard and not have a point system there would be no need to go to extreme breeding practices to get dogs capable of that extra point. of course you would not have a winner as such just dogs proven to work at a high standard.

11-19-2012, 06:26 AM	#158 (permalink)
debbiebrown Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: maine Posts: 7,743	i have a Fero and Tiekerhook decendant, and i can see what Cliff is talking about. __________________ url

11-20-2012, 10:55 AM	#160 (permalink)
robk Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,534	The funny thing is, everyone at the club praises that dog becuase he has so much drive.

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