Looking to breed my male.

mockbam5 · 01-13-2011, 10:24 PM

I'm looking to breed my male, I do not want money just a pick in the litter. My dog has perfect temperament and is very healthy. He is 14 months old at the moment.

Parents

va4 Ilbo vom Holtkamper and the mom is sg5 Leila vom Drei Birkenzwinger

I purchased my puppy from Germany.

Emoore · 01-13-2011, 10:25 PM

You don't want to wait for his hip scores?

Jessiewessie99 · 01-13-2011, 10:27 PM

I would suggest reading this:
So you want to be a breeder???

There is much more to breeding than what you are talking about.

**Chris Wild** · 01-13-2011, 10:31 PM

What health testing has he had done? At 14 months old he's not yet old enough for OFAs, but perhaps he was certified in Germany where a dog need only be 12 months. He's too young to have titles yet, but is he in training for those and when do you expect them to be accomplished?

Unfortunately, "perfect" temperament and health is very subjective, and also cannot be truly proven without impartial evaluations in the sense of health testing and some form of test of proper breed temperament and ability by a qualified judge (e.g. titles).

Furthermore, despite a strong pedigree and heritage, if he cannot prove that he lives up to that himself via his own accomplishments, the fact is you will not be able to attract the owner of a quality bitch to breed to him. Why would someone with an excellent bitch choose to breed to an untitled, untested, unproven male when there are hundreds of highly titled, tested and proven studs to choose from? And without a quality bitch, no matter how strong of a producer your male may be himself, one cannot have a quality litter of quality puppies.

Lucy Dog · 01-13-2011, 10:34 PM

I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to post this... might as well be me.

mockbam5, here's a good flow chart to help you decide if your dog is a good candidate to be bred. Let us know how your dog matches up and if you have any questions.

"Should I breed my dog?" Flowchart

Lora · 01-13-2011, 11:02 PM

I am sorry but is there not enough qualified breeders out there, enough GSD's that need homes, enough backyard breeders, and puppy mills ...... pick of the litter for a quality pup is like getting money IMO. Instead of getting Stud Fees you get a pup ...
a pup that if is of any quality could fetch hundreds of dollars so technically you are getting money .... in order to get one pup, four or six have to be born .... What if the female turns on your male you could end up with vet bills... an offspring from a GSD or any other breed that you have loved is so great to have, but it can be selfish too...
Please do not take it as I am calling you selfish I am not..... Just think it through real hard before you stud out....

mockbam5 · 01-14-2011, 10:47 AM

Thank you for all the wise input. I'm waiting to have my dog OFA certified, and I will not be showing my dog although he has all potential to be a great show dog. Now regarding temperament, when I say perfect temperament I really mean it. I have never heard him growl or have aggressive tendencies towards any human, he is very social with all dogs. Fulfills all his commands and duties. Protects the home and listens carefully. We had a dog trainer who usto also train police dogs and he said my dog would be a perfect candidate for police work or search and rescue. My family has had German shepherds in our lives for many many generations. This being my second, and I am pleased to say Kai is the perfect assortment of strength, mind, and temperament. The best dog my family has ever been with. By looks he's almost an exact copy of ilbo vom holtkamper see. The reason I want to mate my male, is because more dedicated German shepherd lovers want a puppy from my dog. Now I have sent all my friends to dirk from osterbergland. Most say they want a puppy from kai due to his looks, temperament and energy.

mockbam5 · 01-14-2011, 10:48 AM

Looking at that box above, I'm ready to mate my guy when he is ready.

rvadog · 01-14-2011, 10:53 AM

What's it like to be in your own little world where it's sunny all the time?

mockbam5 · 01-14-2011, 10:53 AM

Also, I would have gone to my breeder but he lives in germany. When he sent me the puppy he said, "I sent you one of the best two puppies in the litter, he is too young to tell if he will be a champion show dog but I believe he will be a great show dog by looking at him now." I sent pictures to dirk when he turned one and he was amazed at how great my dog looked and said you now have serious show dog.

01-13-2011, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
mockbam5 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 49	Looking to breed my male. I'm looking to breed my male, I do not want money just a pick in the litter. My dog has perfect temperament and is very healthy. He is 14 months old at the moment. Parents va4 Ilbo vom Holtkamper and the mom is sg5 Leila vom Drei Birkenzwinger I purchased my puppy from Germany.

01-13-2011, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
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01-13-2011, 10:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jessiewessie99 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lakewod, CA Posts: 6,807	I would suggest reading this: So you want to be a breeder??? There is much more to breeding than what you are talking about. __________________ Jessica-Shelter Volunteer Molly-GSD ✔ Certified Ninja Dog Tanner-GSD ✔ Certified Lovebug RIP: Max & Simba "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible."-George Chakiris, as said by Agent Derek Mogan

01-13-2011, 10:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 12,604	What health testing has he had done? At 14 months old he's not yet old enough for OFAs, but perhaps he was certified in Germany where a dog need only be 12 months. He's too young to have titles yet, but is he in training for those and when do you expect them to be accomplished? Unfortunately, "perfect" temperament and health is very subjective, and also cannot be truly proven without impartial evaluations in the sense of health testing and some form of test of proper breed temperament and ability by a qualified judge (e.g. titles). Furthermore, despite a strong pedigree and heritage, if he cannot prove that he lives up to that himself via his own accomplishments, the fact is you will not be able to attract the owner of a quality bitch to breed to him. Why would someone with an excellent bitch choose to breed to an untitled, untested, unproven male when there are hundreds of highly titled, tested and proven studs to choose from? And without a quality bitch, no matter how strong of a producer your male may be himself, one cannot have a quality litter of quality puppies. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 UCD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA TR1 PD1 P1 PA T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 PD1 P1 T1 URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Heidi ~ BH CD UCD RN URO1 (B/HOT) Jazz ~ Superpup In Training

01-13-2011, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,179	I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to post this... might as well be me. mockbam5, here's a good flow chart to help you decide if your dog is a good candidate to be bred. Let us know how your dog matches up and if you have any questions. "Should I breed my dog?" Flowchart __________________ Paul

01-13-2011, 11:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lora Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 168	I am sorry but is there not enough qualified breeders out there, enough GSD's that need homes, enough backyard breeders, and puppy mills ...... pick of the litter for a quality pup is like getting money IMO. Instead of getting Stud Fees you get a pup ... a pup that if is of any quality could fetch hundreds of dollars so technically you are getting money .... in order to get one pup, four or six have to be born .... What if the female turns on your male you could end up with vet bills... an offspring from a GSD or any other breed that you have loved is so great to have, but it can be selfish too... Please do not take it as I am calling you selfish I am not..... Just think it through real hard before you stud out....

01-14-2011, 10:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
mockbam5 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 49	Thank you for all the wise input. I'm waiting to have my dog OFA certified, and I will not be showing my dog although he has all potential to be a great show dog. Now regarding temperament, when I say perfect temperament I really mean it. I have never heard him growl or have aggressive tendencies towards any human, he is very social with all dogs. Fulfills all his commands and duties. Protects the home and listens carefully. We had a dog trainer who usto also train police dogs and he said my dog would be a perfect candidate for police work or search and rescue. My family has had German shepherds in our lives for many many generations. This being my second, and I am pleased to say Kai is the perfect assortment of strength, mind, and temperament. The best dog my family has ever been with. By looks he's almost an exact copy of ilbo vom holtkamper see. The reason I want to mate my male, is because more dedicated German shepherd lovers want a puppy from my dog. Now I have sent all my friends to dirk from osterbergland. Most say they want a puppy from kai due to his looks, temperament and energy.

01-14-2011, 10:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
mockbam5 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 49	Looking at that box above, I'm ready to mate my guy when he is ready.

01-14-2011, 10:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
rvadog Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 207	What's it like to be in your own little world where it's sunny all the time? __________________ Dog training in the NYC area! http://www.gooddogtrainingco.com

01-14-2011, 10:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
mockbam5 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 49	Also, I would have gone to my breeder but he lives in germany. When he sent me the puppy he said, "I sent you one of the best two puppies in the litter, he is too young to tell if he will be a champion show dog but I believe he will be a great show dog by looking at him now." I sent pictures to dirk when he turned one and he was amazed at how great my dog looked and said you now have serious show dog.

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