New borns not feeding...Please help

kefied · 11-28-2010, 01:33 AM

To my surprise, we have new pups tonight. But they just are not feeding......Im not sure what to do but I brought the mother and pups in(It was too cold outside) and set them against her belly, thinking that they would automatically feed. The mom seems to not encourage them to feed. Any suggestions? Please help, I dont want to see these puppies die...

selzer · 11-28-2010, 01:42 AM

If you feed a cold puppy it will die. Below a certain temperature, the digestive track shuts down and the puppies will die if fed.

A dogs normal temperature is 102, but newborn puppies is lower 96-98 (not exactly sure), you need to find this information, take the temperature and NOT try tube feeding until these pups are up to temperature (even a few degrees will be a problem).

Pups have no ability to regulate their temperature. If they are not being kept warm by their dam, I think you should put a heat lamp over a part of your whelping area. This can be a naked bulb type lamp. It will give heat. Warm pups SLOWLY.

Heating pads can warm pups up way too fast. Best bet is if you offer ANY type of external heat, you provide a method for dam and pups to move away from it.

What is the mother's temperature? If she is sick, this may be why she is not interested in taking care of the puppies. If you feed the puppies, you will also have to stimulate them to urinate and defecate.

I do not know where you are coming from, so how cold it is outside.

Please someone else come on and help this person because I have to get off now.

Hope the puppies manage to survive.

And folks, these pups are already here, lets just try and help keep them alive and leave it there.

Zoeys mom · 11-28-2010, 01:58 AM

You can cover them with a blanket for warmth but I second the warming them slow and not pushing food until you know they are at a safe temp. Did these pups arrive early, how many, how old is mom, and do you have any puppy formula to supplement if mom is in fact having issues?

Did mom receive vet care and have you called your vet yet? The dam is probably very tired and may not be done delivering, but most pups when placed will suck naturally without much encouragement from mom. If these pups are early though they may not. Do you have an accurate way to take their temps? If so monitor the puppies and mom's temp every hour. If mom is over 103 get her to the vet asap!! As for the puppies once their temp is good try placing them on the nipple and encourage sucking by stroking their cheeks. However, like Selzer pointed out mom's usually lick the anus and vaginal/penial area to induce urine and stool. If mom is not licking them you will have to take a cloth and gently rub these areas to express waste. Good luck and do call your closest emergency vet it sounds like mom may need some care

Lucy Dog · 11-28-2010, 02:01 AM

I wish I had some sort of knowledge here to help, but I don't.

Kefied - Can you give us an update to what you're plan is here? What's going on?

I see Selzer's still online, so you still have someone with experience still around. I'd take advantage while you still can if you have any questions or need help.

doggiedad · 11-28-2010, 04:15 AM

how could you be surprised by the fact your dog
had pups? didn't you know she was pregnant?
you had the mother outside in the cold? why was
the dog outside in the cold? get a Vet to come to
your house to check the pups.

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Originally Posted by kefied

To my surprise, we have new pups tonight. But they just are not feeding......Im not sure what to do but I brought the mother and pups in(It was too cold outside) and set them against her belly, thinking that they would automatically feed. The mom seems to not encourage them to feed. Any suggestions? Please help, I dont want to see these puppies die...

**MaggieRoseLee** · 11-28-2010, 10:33 AM

I'm hoping you are back from the vet's now so have a good idea if the mom dog is fine and what's up with the puppies too. Always alot easier going forward when you know all the puppies are out of the mom, she's doing well, and how to move forward.

selzer · 11-28-2010, 10:58 PM

Any update on mom and pups?

Be careful with blankets, mom can actually suffacate one, blankets are ok if you are supervising and ony using them to warm up pups. I would not leave them down in the whelping box. pups can get stuck in the folds.

Hoping for the best, but it really does not sound good.

How cold was it, what location are you. Here it was in the teens last night.

robinhuerta · 11-28-2010, 11:06 PM

No news yet?

vat · 11-29-2010, 07:19 AM

Oh dear, I hope all is ok.

Kelly's Buddy · 11-29-2010, 07:24 AM

I hope they feel they can come back. My hunch is maybe not. We can hope tho.

11-28-2010, 01:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
kefied New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3	New borns not feeding...Please help To my surprise, we have new pups tonight. But they just are not feeding......Im not sure what to do but I brought the mother and pups in(It was too cold outside) and set them against her belly, thinking that they would automatically feed. The mom seems to not encourage them to feed. Any suggestions? Please help, I dont want to see these puppies die...

11-28-2010, 01:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	If you feed a cold puppy it will die. Below a certain temperature, the digestive track shuts down and the puppies will die if fed. A dogs normal temperature is 102, but newborn puppies is lower 96-98 (not exactly sure), you need to find this information, take the temperature and NOT try tube feeding until these pups are up to temperature (even a few degrees will be a problem). Pups have no ability to regulate their temperature. If they are not being kept warm by their dam, I think you should put a heat lamp over a part of your whelping area. This can be a naked bulb type lamp. It will give heat. Warm pups SLOWLY. Heating pads can warm pups up way too fast. Best bet is if you offer ANY type of external heat, you provide a method for dam and pups to move away from it. What is the mother's temperature? If she is sick, this may be why she is not interested in taking care of the puppies. If you feed the puppies, you will also have to stimulate them to urinate and defecate. I do not know where you are coming from, so how cold it is outside. Please someone else come on and help this person because I have to get off now. Hope the puppies manage to survive. And folks, these pups are already here, lets just try and help keep them alive and leave it there. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear Last edited by selzer; 11-28-2010 at 01:46 AM.

11-28-2010, 02:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,179	I wish I had some sort of knowledge here to help, but I don't. Kefied - Can you give us an update to what you're plan is here? What's going on? I see Selzer's still online, so you still have someone with experience still around. I'd take advantage while you still can if you have any questions or need help. __________________ Paul

11-28-2010, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,205	I'm hoping you are back from the vet's now so have a good idea if the mom dog is fine and what's up with the puppies too. Always alot easier going forward when you know all the puppies are out of the mom, she's doing well, and how to move forward. __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

11-28-2010, 10:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	Any update on mom and pups? Be careful with blankets, mom can actually suffacate one, blankets are ok if you are supervising and ony using them to warm up pups. I would not leave them down in the whelping box. pups can get stuck in the folds. Hoping for the best, but it really does not sound good. How cold was it, what location are you. Here it was in the teens last night. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

11-28-2010, 01:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
Zoeys mom Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rockville, Md Posts: 2,941	You can cover them with a blanket for warmth but I second the warming them slow and not pushing food until you know they are at a safe temp. Did these pups arrive early, how many, how old is mom, and do you have any puppy formula to supplement if mom is in fact having issues? Did mom receive vet care and have you called your vet yet? The dam is probably very tired and may not be done delivering, but most pups when placed will suck naturally without much encouragement from mom. If these pups are early though they may not. Do you have an accurate way to take their temps? If so monitor the puppies and mom's temp every hour. If mom is over 103 get her to the vet asap!! As for the puppies once their temp is good try placing them on the nipple and encourage sucking by stroking their cheeks. However, like Selzer pointed out mom's usually lick the anus and vaginal/penial area to induce urine and stool. If mom is not licking them you will have to take a cloth and gently rub these areas to express waste. Good luck and do call your closest emergency vet it sounds like mom may need some care

11-28-2010, 11:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
robinhuerta Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,224	No news yet? __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

11-29-2010, 07:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
vat Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Kingston, IL Posts: 3,027	Oh dear, I hope all is ok. __________________ Valerie Shewana's Maximum Velocity (aka Max) Shewana's Hot-Spice (aka Callan) Kaycee 11/97-5/10 Rio 10/08-2/10 Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away.

11-29-2010, 07:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
Kelly's Buddy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pac NW Posts: 224	I hope they feel they can come back. My hunch is maybe not. We can hope tho. __________________ "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people."- Eleanor Roosevelt

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