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Old 07-16-2010, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I haven't talked to him in detail but the breeder we got our male from asked me if I would be interested in breeding him with a female he purchased overseas. (I'm not sure where exactly) He is a very reputable breeder and knows his stuff but I just wanted some feedback from others. I'm a little unsure what if any my responsibilities would be. I would never consider breeding typically since I agree with most that the everyday owner should not breed, but since I was asked by the breeder I am giving it a little thought. Please don't hold back as any and all feedback is appreciated. Are there any health risks to males? I know there are plenty for females.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The only thing I feel should stop you from breeding is titles and health tests. If this breeder doesn't require you to do them, then he isn't reputable at all.

If you want to breed your dog for your breeder, that's your perogative, but please do something to further the breed in the process. That means having show conformation or working titles, and have xrays done on the hips and elbows after 2 yrs to be sent to OFA for screening to rate them to make sure your dog should be bred.
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oh I am sure he would want me to go through all that but that is why I am wondering if it is worth it on my end. I have all the original papers for Baron but I didn't get him to breed or show, although I have been told I should. I think everyone thinks they have the most handsome dog though, don't they?
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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How old is your dog? Can you post his pedigree? Whos the breeder?

Did your breeder give you a reason why he chose your dog?
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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My boy (Baron Von Heksterhorst) is only 16 months so this is obviously not like a tomorrow thing. The female is young also. I believe he is just thinking ahead. I do know that originally the breeder did want to keep Baron but for whatever reason sold him to my sister. I don't have his papers out but I do remember his sire is Ewo Von Heksterhorst.


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Old 07-16-2010, 02:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Its quite possible he wants to breed him to his female to perserver the line or have a litter to bring the line back into his dogs. Did he give you a reason for wanting to use your dog with this bitch? Personally I can see this and understand a breeder wanting to breed back to a dog he had planned to keep but changed his mind for some reason. Would also be good to know why he changed his mind and decided not to keep him himself. I say as long as the testing is done i see no problem. The only thing you want to make sure the breeder does is test the bitch for Brucellosis as she can pass that onto your dog. Of course also make sure he does the proper testing on her for OFA...
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Personally, i think dogs need more than just a health ok before breeding. I think titling is just as important especially with a breed like this.

Titles help ensure temperment and without titles, you're taking a bigger chance on temperment than needed. Plenty of people think their dogs have great temperments, but titling kind of prove it. It shows the dogs are able to work and perform under pressure.

I wouldn't even consider breeding before two years old when their hips can be reviewed by the OFA. Once that's out of the way, i'd start titling. Well, you can really start with the titles before the OFA process. Once titled and OFA'd, then the breeding conversations can start. Before that, it's not something i'd even consider.
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My boy (Baron Von Heksterhorst) is only 16 months so this is obviously not like a tomorrow thing. The female is young also. I believe he is just thinking ahead. I do know that originally the breeder did want to keep Baron but for whatever reason sold him to my sister. I don't have his papers out but I do remember his sire is Ewo Von Heksterhorst.
Is the breeder you got your dog from the owner of Ewo Von Heksterhorst? (reason for asking ~ does not look like Ewo is titled, no OFA result and, according to pedigree database on his progeny list, he was used a sire before 1 year of age, raises a HUGE red flag for me).

I would say at a minimum, if you are going to breed your dog, OFA's are a MUST and to make sure your dog is really bred worthy, get a working title on him (herding, Schutzhund, SAR, French Ring..etc).
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Thank you guys for your input. I really appreciate it. I would not know what to look for in a dog to make it worthy of breeding, and I would not even want to look and try. I am completely against byb types but I am confident in this breeder as a professional. He does a lot of training and other services and is quite well known in our area. There is a lot to think about. I will see what he has to say since it seems like I would have to put some time and money in this if I did this.
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Is the breeder you got your dog from the owner of Ewo Von Heksterhorst? (reason for asking ~ does not look like Ewo is titled, no OFA result and, according to pedigree database on his progeny list, he was used a sire before 1 year of age, raises a HUGE red flag for me).

I would say at a minimum, if you are going to breed your dog, OFA's are a MUST and to make sure your dog is really bred worthy, get a working title on him (herding, Schutzhund, SAR, French Ring..etc).
I believe he does. I honestly don't know what the rest of that paragraph means. lol. This is the page that came up for me but I wouldn't know the difference honestly.
Ewo Von Heksterhorst pedigree information - German shepherd dog

IF I did this I would definitely take everyone's advice and go through every hoop to make sure he should breed. Last thing I would want to do is have puppies that may not find homes when there are already so many in rescues, etc.
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