Old fashioned? REALLY???

Mrs.K · 03-10-2010, 05:31 AM

Can somebody tell me what is so old-fashioned about superlarge and oversized German Shepherds?

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Lin · 03-10-2010, 05:33 AM

Nothing. Its just a marketing ploy, like "teacup" small dogs. The "old fashioned" GSD was smaller than todays! And I don't understand the obsession with "old fashioned" in general, breeding is done for a reason and thats to improve the breed!

Mrs.K · 03-10-2010, 05:46 AM

And why breeding German Shepherds that are so big? I don't get it? IF they want a big dog they should get a big dane and not turn the shepherd into one.

Dainerra · 03-10-2010, 06:03 AM

parts of the guarantee are interesting like: elbow problems are only genetic if both are affected, otherwise it's from an accident. dog is guaranteed for only 6 years, even though the "highlight" of their breeding program is to produce longer-lived dogs? guarantee is invalid if the dog is sold or stays with another owner (what does that mean? If I leave him with my MIL while I'm out of town no coverage?)

my favorite - guarantee is void if the animal is bred because "you've made your purchase price back and then some"

Mrs.K · 03-10-2010, 06:16 AM

Yeah I just read that.... that's gotta be a joke... she can't seriously believe that it is only genetic when both hips are affected...

robinhuerta · 03-10-2010, 08:57 AM

That entire "first page" is a joke....I' didn't even bother to read further.
Over-sized, Old Fashioned GSD?? Laid back temperament?
How many people trully know what this breed "used" to be???
They were not huge dogs, nor "laid back".......we have created them as such....not a good thing...it's a problem.
JMO

HeidiW · 03-10-2010, 09:08 AM

Frozen semen $2000, wow!

I do like large males but to a point.

Mrs.K · 03-10-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeidiW

Frozen semen $2000, wow!

I do like large males but to a point.

Not just that. Frozen semen is a no-go over here.

atravis · 03-10-2010, 09:25 AM

To be fair,

has been producing extremely temperamentally/physically sound dogs for years, and have a good reputation for producing excellent "family pet" type dogs.

Not saying its right or wrong, but they are not your typical "BYB" operation.

They do not claim to breed working or show animals, only extremely stable family pets. And thus far, that's held true.

**Chris Wild** · 03-10-2010, 09:27 AM

I have removed the link in the first post.

If people want to discuss the whole "Old Fashioned" thing for the zillionth time they are welcome to, but per board rules bashing specific breeders is not allowed.

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Mrs.K Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,235	Old fashioned? REALLY??? Can somebody tell me what is so old-fashioned about superlarge and oversized German Shepherds? Link removed by Admin __________________ Das mir der Hund viel lieber sei sagst du oh Mensch ist Sünde, der Hund bleibt mir im Sturme treu, der Mensch nicht mal im Winde. my blog:Head over Heels into Dog Handling Last edited by Chris Wild; 03-10-2010 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Link Removed

03-10-2010, 05:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mrs.K Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,235	And why breeding German Shepherds that are so big? I don't get it? IF they want a big dog they should get a big dane and not turn the shepherd into one. __________________ Das mir der Hund viel lieber sei sagst du oh Mensch ist Sünde, der Hund bleibt mir im Sturme treu, der Mensch nicht mal im Winde. my blog:Head over Heels into Dog Handling

03-10-2010, 06:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mrs.K Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,235	Yeah I just read that.... that's gotta be a joke... she can't seriously believe that it is only genetic when both hips are affected... __________________ Das mir der Hund viel lieber sei sagst du oh Mensch ist Sünde, der Hund bleibt mir im Sturme treu, der Mensch nicht mal im Winde. my blog:Head over Heels into Dog Handling

03-10-2010, 08:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
robinhuerta Master Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 608	That entire "first page" is a joke....I' didn't even bother to read further. Over-sized, Old Fashioned GSD?? Laid back temperament? How many people trully know what this breed "used" to be??? They were not huge dogs, nor "laid back".......we have created them as such....not a good thing...it's a problem. JMO __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds ....where breeding is still considered an art.... http://www.huertahof.com

03-10-2010, 09:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
HeidiW Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 2,830	Frozen semen $2000, wow! I do like large males but to a point. __________________ Heidi, human mom to Daisy, 5 yr JRT Bella, 2 yr GSD Bo, 1 yr GSD Rest in Peace, Kasey, GSD Shelter 8/96-12/07 at the Bridge Patches, CS Shelter 4/93-4/05 at the Bridge Keisha, GSD 12/87-10/96 at the Bridge Tarsha, GSD my sweet 16 BD at the Bridge

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03-10-2010, 05:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 1,608	Nothing. Its just a marketing ploy, like "teacup" small dogs. The "old fashioned" GSD was smaller than todays! And I don't understand the obsession with "old fashioned" in general, breeding is done for a reason and thats to improve the breed!

03-10-2010, 06:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dainerra Knighted Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: N. Central Arkansas Posts: 2,599	parts of the guarantee are interesting like: elbow problems are only genetic if both are affected, otherwise it's from an accident. dog is guaranteed for only 6 years, even though the "highlight" of their breeding program is to produce longer-lived dogs? guarantee is invalid if the dog is sold or stays with another owner (what does that mean? If I leave him with my MIL while I'm out of town no coverage?) my favorite - guarantee is void if the animal is bred because "you've made your purchase price back and then some"

03-10-2010, 09:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
atravis Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 416	To be fair, has been producing extremely temperamentally/physically sound dogs for years, and have a good reputation for producing excellent "family pet" type dogs. Not saying its right or wrong, but they are not your typical "BYB" operation. They do not claim to breed working or show animals, only extremely stable family pets. And thus far, that's held true. __________________ Lex~ Mulder- black GSD [Dogster] [Pedigree] Last edited by JeanKBBMMMAAN; 03-10-2010 at 01:53 PM. Reason: removed kennel name

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Chris Wild Administrator & Alpha Bitch of the Wild Bunch Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,219	I have removed the link in the first post. If people want to discuss the whole "Old Fashioned" thing for the zillionth time they are welcome to, but per board rules bashing specific breeders is not allowed. __________________ *Wildhaus Kennels* Kaiser ~ SchH3 CGC TDI (HOT) Raven ~ SchH3 AWD2 PD1 P1 PA T1 U-CD URO2 CGC TT (B/HOT) Della ~ SchHA PD1 P1 PA T1 URO1 CGC TT (B/HOT) Wulf ~ SchH1 P1 PDOB1 T1 URO1 CGC TT (B/HOT) Nara ~ CGC Heidi & Hannah ~ The Next Generation