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Join Date: May 2011
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Let's say you have a litter and much to everyone's surprise, out pops a WHITE pup! As the litter grows, you notice this white pup is outstanding. Great conformation, great temperament, fearless, confident, focused, great drive. THE pick of the litter in every aspect except color. Curious, you keep said white pup until he is about, say, 5 or 6 months to see how he grows out. He only gets better and better.
The question is, would you place this pup as a companion on a non-breeding contract, or would you consider selling him to a reputable breeder of whites, to help expand their gene pool and improve their breeding program? What if the pup in question was a liver or blue?
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If a blue or liver it would be sold on limited registration with a non breeding contract into an appropriate and responsible home.
I would probably do the same with a white.
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I would too...unless the pup would make a better companion.
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I would probably give it to a working home. I don't know much about schutzhund or other sports, but from what i understand whites are faults only in shows and breed surveys? Am I wrong here??
If the white/blue/liver dog can work then it should work. Maybe if a white breeder is titling his dogs I would consider selling this particular dog to that breeder. Then again I am not a breeder, so maybe if i was my answer would be different.
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Depends on the genotype to spay or neuter. Since the dog in question seems to be the exception rather than the rule, I would probably alter it. Maybe keep for fun, maybe sell for work/pet, maybe star in the picture shows..
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I am not a breeder, but I can imagine I'd be really torn about what to do with the white pup. If blue or liver, I imagine I'd alter and place in a companion/working home. But now that whites are becoming their own breed, and there are reputable breeders working with whites, trying to improve upon their working ability and so on... would there be an ethical problem placing the pup with such a breeder?
And just for the sake of argument, let's say rhetorical white pup has an outstanding pedigree, from V-rated working lines, good hips, etc, and himself prelims with good hips and elbows, tests negative for all the bad stuff, and has excellent conformation as well as excellent temperament and drive. It is that once in a lifetime pup that would be destined to excel and rise to the top of everything, were he not white.
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A blue or liver would be sold on a spay/neuter contract to whatever home was most suitable for it's temperament. There are no reputable breeders of those colors.
I would intend to do the same if a white cropped up. But if approached by a serious, reputable WGSD breeder who titles (performance, not just conformation), health tests, has a solid, well thought out and focused breeding program and is well respected amongst the WGSD community, I would be willing to consider selling the pup as a breeding prospect to that person if the pup really was that exceptional and so was the breeder.
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