Puppy hip x-ray question

GranvilleGSD · 10-15-2009, 09:24 PM

I'm wanting to keep a female puppy back from my breeding. I was wondering about taking an x-ray around the age of 8 weeks. I know that the growth plates are not closed and that there's no way to tell if they will OFA when they are 2. An x-ray would show generally if the sockets are shallow or deep at that age right? I ask because a receptionist that I work with at the vet's office "breeds" Goldens (don't get me started

) and the x-rays of her dogs all have very shallow sockets and just bad hips in general. Has anybody ever done x-rays at that age to see?

**angelaw** · 10-15-2009, 09:29 PM

Never as things can change so much. Even ofa doesn't recognize prelims until 4 months. I'd recommend holding onto until at least then before doing the xray. I personally wait until about 10-12 months.

xwildman138x · 10-15-2009, 09:29 PM

Hey maybe the receptionist should punch herself in the face and stop breeding goldens with bad hips. Baron had his xrays at 6 months. Sorry thats all I can add

**Amaruq** · 10-15-2009, 09:37 PM

I have heard Penn hips can be done earlier if that is an option. Not sure how reliable it is but it is an option.

shepherdbydesign · 10-15-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted By: Angela_WNever as things can change so much. Even ofa doesn't recognize prelims until 4 months. I'd recommend holding onto until at least then before doing the xray. I personally wait until about 10-12 months.

I have to agree with Angela as it way to early to even think of an hip x-ray at 8 weeks old

GranvilleGSD · 10-15-2009, 09:55 PM

I guess more what I'm asking is theoretically, if I had 2 females that seemed to be equal puppies and couldn't decide which to keep back, and I could only keep 1, would I be able to see if one had better hips than the other for possible future breeding? I'm not looking to certify anything at that age.

GranvilleGSD · 10-15-2009, 09:57 PM

And yes, the Golden "breeder" should punch herself in the face (if I don't do it first, lol) She had 36 puppies this spring, and the sire had bred to 9 females before the age of 2... I'll just stop there before I say anything too nasty.

Doc · 10-16-2009, 08:18 AM

I would read all you can about the PennHip method. It is a much better predictor and can be done at an earlier age than OFA.

10-15-2009, 09:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
GranvilleGSD Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 686	Puppy hip x-ray question I'm wanting to keep a female puppy back from my breeding. I was wondering about taking an x-ray around the age of 8 weeks. I know that the growth plates are not closed and that there's no way to tell if they will OFA when they are 2. An x-ray would show generally if the sockets are shallow or deep at that age right? I ask because a receptionist that I work with at the vet's office "breeds" Goldens (don't get me started ) and the x-rays of her dogs all have very shallow sockets and just bad hips in general. Has anybody ever done x-rays at that age to see?

10-15-2009, 09:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
angelaw Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 15,225	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question Never as things can change so much. Even ofa doesn't recognize prelims until 4 months. I'd recommend holding onto until at least then before doing the xray. I personally wait until about 10-12 months. __________________ Angela http://www.vomlandholz.com Hardy, Diesel, Jet, Denial v. Zioner Berg, Iris & Patches the cats

10-15-2009, 09:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
xwildman138x Master Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: south jersey Posts: 622	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question Hey maybe the receptionist should punch herself in the face and stop breeding goldens with bad hips. Baron had his xrays at 6 months. Sorry thats all I can add __________________ Rambo the annihilator (Chihuahua) Born 11/28/2008 RIP Lord Baron von Stowcreek (GSD) 12/3/07-5/30/10 Murphy (chocolate lab) Champ (black lab) Trixie (shep mix) Princess (malamute/shep mix) Ponch (white GSD) Mork (Daschund mix) Shane (shep mix)

10-15-2009, 09:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Amaruq Moderator who has gone to the dogs Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Where I don't wanna be-NW PA Posts: 14,645	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question I have heard Penn hips can be done earlier if that is an option. Not sure how reliable it is but it is an option. __________________ Ruq Paq Lakota, Chimo, Tika, Rayne, Kanuck, Jethro and Keyzah My Angels forever in my heart and watching over us: Phoenix 9/07 Kaylee Cheyenne 5/09

10-15-2009, 09:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
GranvilleGSD Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 686	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question I guess more what I'm asking is theoretically, if I had 2 females that seemed to be equal puppies and couldn't decide which to keep back, and I could only keep 1, would I be able to see if one had better hips than the other for possible future breeding? I'm not looking to certify anything at that age.

10-15-2009, 09:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
GranvilleGSD Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 686	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question And yes, the Golden "breeder" should punch herself in the face (if I don't do it first, lol) She had 36 puppies this spring, and the sire had bred to 9 females before the age of 2... I'll just stop there before I say anything too nasty.

10-16-2009, 08:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Doc Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,605	Re: Puppy hip x-ray question I would read all you can about the PennHip method. It is a much better predictor and can be done at an earlier age than OFA.

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