AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not

**angelaw** · 02-25-2009, 06:55 PM

Ok, I just registered the litter online. Then I typically do the online ad thing with akc since it's easy and it's there. For the first time, I figured I'd look at the ads for gsd's in Florida

There are 19 ads listed. Out of those 19 ONLY 2 of us have sire/dam's ofa's done. Most have NO OFA's done. I clicked on all 19 ads, there were 2 I think that 1 parent had ofa's done, but not both. And people wonder why the decline of the breed.

derby98 · 02-25-2009, 07:00 PM

There are more irresponsible people out there than you think !

shepherdbydesign · 02-25-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted By: Angela_WThere are 19 ads listed. Out of those 19 ONLY 2 of us have sire/dam's ofa's done. Most have NO OFA's done. I clicked on all 19 ads, there were 2 I think that 1 parent had ofa's done, but not both. And people wonder why the decline of the breed.

And you expected different, This is the exact reason the GSD's have the problems they do. What really scares me is that if they haven't done hips and elbows, what else haven't they done.

AbbyK9 · 02-25-2009, 07:01 PM

I think the AKC should REQUIRE that certain health testing is done before a dog can be bred, or decline registration of the litter if they're bred without health testing. Of course, that would be assuming the AKC cares more about dogs than money.

shepherdbydesign · 02-25-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted By: HistorianI think the AKC should REQUIRE that certain health testing is done before a dog can be bred, or decline registration of the litter if they're bred without health testing. Of course, that would be assuming the AKC cares more about dogs than money.

Sometimes AKC is no better than the people breeding unhealthy dog. If they would get past the $$$ they maybe able to change whats done here.

Remo · 02-25-2009, 07:08 PM

There are a couple of breeders here in the DC area that have ads in the paper ALL of the time.

One guy has an ad almost every day. He must be out of town this week because I did not see his ad (for once!)

Anyone that can view The Washington Posts classifieds can probably figure out who I am talking about fairly readily.

Now I have seen a couple of new breeders with ads on a regular basis too. And we wonder why rescue can't keep up with the dogs getting dumped in the shelters.

We keep thinking that the numbers will eventually dwindle, and our lives will become easier, but sadly that is not the case.

Liesje · 02-25-2009, 07:08 PM

Typical, unfortunately. I've corresponded with breeders, or people who got their dogs from breeders who don't even know what the OFFA is.

selzer · 02-25-2009, 07:13 PM

Historian, but where do you stop?

If a dog has an a stamp should you also have an OFA, what about penn-hip? Do you stop with hips or hips and elbows, or hips and elbows and cardiac and....

Then you can say it is AKC right? Maybe they should only register dogs out of AKC titled parents? Will this help the breed. What about all you Shutzhund fanciers.

The SV can require an A-stamp, they can require Schutzhund, they can require the going thing in Germany today. So AKC can require OFA, AKC tracking, herding, or obedience titles. Will this help the breed in America today?

AKC is an all-breed registry. I do not know if the SV covers all breeds or just German breeds or just German Shepherds. In any case, we have three rather distinct lines in the US, and putting restrictions that favors one line of thought won't help in my opinion. Much better to set a GSDCA type of registry, make sure it covers the all three lines of dogs, and then advertise and educate people to only buy shepherds who are GSDCA registered.

Different breeds have different issues, using an all breed club to make requirements for your breed is kind of like asking the government to set up standards for dog breeding and sales.

Just an opinion.

I was very pleased that when I saw my ad, they did put my ofas down.

SouthernThistle · 02-25-2009, 07:29 PM

Unfortunately, not at all uncommon. I have seen more than a fair share of litter postings on the AKC Breeder Classifieds that have made me cringe.

My favorite is if you ASK them about OFA or Penn Hip.....and they ask you what that means.

allieg · 02-25-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted By: SouthernThistleUnfortunately, not at all uncommon. I have seen more than a fair share of litter postings on the AKC Breeder Classifieds that have made me cringe.

My favorite is if you ASK them about OFA or Penn Hip.....and they ask you what that means.

That would be my clue to run in the other direction.

02-25-2009, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
angelaw Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 15,225	AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not Ok, I just registered the litter online. Then I typically do the online ad thing with akc since it's easy and it's there. For the first time, I figured I'd look at the ads for gsd's in Florida There are 19 ads listed. Out of those 19 ONLY 2 of us have sire/dam's ofa's done. Most have NO OFA's done. I clicked on all 19 ads, there were 2 I think that 1 parent had ofa's done, but not both. And people wonder why the decline of the breed. __________________ Angela http://www.vomlandholz.com Hardy, Diesel, Jet, Denial v. Zioner Berg, Iris & Patches the cats

02-25-2009, 07:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
derby98 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 307	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not There are more irresponsible people out there than you think ! __________________ Quantum Vom Haus Tyson (Call sign "Diego") 01-29-08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWV40nk6fcY

02-25-2009, 07:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
AbbyK9 Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Country, NY Posts: 12,442	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not I think the AKC should REQUIRE that certain health testing is done before a dog can be bred, or decline registration of the litter if they're bred without health testing. Of course, that would be assuming the AKC cares more about dogs than money. __________________ Malinois Ronja - fastest K-9 in VT =^^= Finn, Ratchet & Ollie Blog - Facebook - Store

02-25-2009, 07:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Remo Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,396	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not There are a couple of breeders here in the DC area that have ads in the paper ALL of the time. One guy has an ad almost every day. He must be out of town this week because I did not see his ad (for once!) Anyone that can view The Washington Posts classifieds can probably figure out who I am talking about fairly readily. Now I have seen a couple of new breeders with ads on a regular basis too. And we wonder why rescue can't keep up with the dogs getting dumped in the shelters. We keep thinking that the numbers will eventually dwindle, and our lives will become easier, but sadly that is not the case. __________________ Yours in GSDs and rescue, Lea Good Dogs for Good Homes Virginia German Shepherd Rescue www.shepherdrescue.org

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Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not Typical, unfortunately. I've corresponded with breeders, or people who got their dogs from breeders who don't even know what the OFFA is. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

02-25-2009, 07:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not Historian, but where do you stop? If a dog has an a stamp should you also have an OFA, what about penn-hip? Do you stop with hips or hips and elbows, or hips and elbows and cardiac and.... Then you can say it is AKC right? Maybe they should only register dogs out of AKC titled parents? Will this help the breed. What about all you Shutzhund fanciers. The SV can require an A-stamp, they can require Schutzhund, they can require the going thing in Germany today. So AKC can require OFA, AKC tracking, herding, or obedience titles. Will this help the breed in America today? AKC is an all-breed registry. I do not know if the SV covers all breeds or just German breeds or just German Shepherds. In any case, we have three rather distinct lines in the US, and putting restrictions that favors one line of thought won't help in my opinion. Much better to set a GSDCA type of registry, make sure it covers the all three lines of dogs, and then advertise and educate people to only buy shepherds who are GSDCA registered. Different breeds have different issues, using an all breed club to make requirements for your breed is kind of like asking the government to set up standards for dog breeding and sales. Just an opinion. I was very pleased that when I saw my ad, they did put my ofas down. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

02-25-2009, 07:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
SouthernThistle Crowned Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 5,347	Re: AKC classifieds for GSD, you'd be surprised/not Unfortunately, not at all uncommon. I have seen more than a fair share of litter postings on the AKC Breeder Classifieds that have made me cringe. My favorite is if you ASK them about OFA or Penn Hip.....and they ask you what that means. __________________ - Shel Handmade puppy and dog toys - Free Shipping 100% Proceeds to animal rescues - http://gandggoodies.webs.com/ - PICS NOW UP!

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