Hips guarantee&breeding

emjworks05 · 02-02-2009, 08:25 PM

Example: you sell someone a male pup that you consider breed worthy conformation wise, temperament, drive, etc. You find out that this person has bred this dog not once but twice with two litters on the ground before the dog is even a year old. You find out that they have bred the dog, before they have even had the hips OFA'd to say the least of what they should be doing before they bred this dog. They have the OFA'd, and they find out the dog has mild HD, so now they expect you to hold up your end of the guarantee about replacing the dog because of the dog having mild HD. What do you say to them as a breeder?

Liesje · 02-02-2009, 08:29 PM

"HA!"

I *think* most breeders have contracts where any guarantees would be negated by the buyer breaching the contract (again, assuming the original breeder had a contract or some agreement stating the owner would NOT do something like this).

mkennels · 02-02-2009, 08:31 PM

In my contract I have where if they breed before a certain age then my guar. is void. so in that case they can fuse at me all they want but they signed a contract and they breeched it

**angelaw** · 02-02-2009, 08:48 PM

I'd say nice try. My contract states no breeding before ofa certifications or 'a' stamps.

DianaM · 02-02-2009, 08:52 PM

Most good breeders have clauses that state if one breeds their dog prior to a certain age or attaining final hip certs, the guarantee is fully null and void.

But then the buyer will waste no time in launching a smear campaign against the breeder even though the buyer was the moron, not the poor breeder.

GSD4LIFE21 · 02-02-2009, 08:53 PM

wow these people have some nerve.

emjworks05 · 02-02-2009, 08:59 PM

Diana, that exactly what my thought is. The buyer will try to bad mouth the breeder even tho it's the buyer fault. The of course when that happens what does the breeder do?

DianaM · 02-02-2009, 09:03 PM

So how does a breeder handle that? If you as a breeder are completely in the right and the idiot buyer decides to

on your reputation, do you continue enforcing the guarantee or do you try to work something out to smooth the situation? If you enforce your guarantee, how do you practice damage control?

middleofnowhere · 02-02-2009, 09:52 PM

Now WHY would someone tell you that they had violated the contract if they were trying to get you to honor your half of it? This doesn't make sense. Would you check through the registry to try to discover if they had violated the contract when they asked for a replacement? How would you discover they hypotheticals on this?

emjworks05 · 02-02-2009, 09:58 PM

Maybe they are just not really that bright? Or maybe they didnt fully understand the contract/agreement? Someone you know found out what they did and told you and you confronted the said buyer?

02-02-2009, 08:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Hips guarantee&breeding Example: you sell someone a male pup that you consider breed worthy conformation wise, temperament, drive, etc. You find out that this person has bred this dog not once but twice with two litters on the ground before the dog is even a year old. You find out that they have bred the dog, before they have even had the hips OFA'd to say the least of what they should be doing before they bred this dog. They have the OFA'd, and they find out the dog has mild HD, so now they expect you to hold up your end of the guarantee about replacing the dog because of the dog having mild HD. What do you say to them as a breeder? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

02-02-2009, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding "HA!" I think most breeders have contracts where any guarantees would be negated by the buyer breaching the contract (again, assuming the original breeder had a contract or some agreement stating the owner would NOT do something like this). __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

02-02-2009, 08:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
mkennels Master Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 932	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding In my contract I have where if they breed before a certain age then my guar. is void. so in that case they can fuse at me all they want but they signed a contract and they breeched it __________________ Janet UKC CH Mystical Talyn D'Argo, TT, OFA H/E, CERF, AKC DNA UKC CH Gretchen Julika Little Star, TT, OFA, Cerf, AKC DNA Von Hornberger's Mystical Knight, TT, CERF, AKC DNA, OFA Ranita's Heavenly Angel R.I.P 9/15/07-10/15/08 http://www.mysticalkennels.com

02-02-2009, 08:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
angelaw Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 15,225	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding I'd say nice try. My contract states no breeding before ofa certifications or 'a' stamps. __________________ Angela http://www.vomlandholz.com Hardy, Diesel, Jet, Denial v. Zioner Berg, Iris & Patches the cats

02-02-2009, 08:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
DianaM Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,096	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding Most good breeders have clauses that state if one breeds their dog prior to a certain age or attaining final hip certs, the guarantee is fully null and void. But then the buyer will waste no time in launching a smear campaign against the breeder even though the buyer was the moron, not the poor breeder. __________________ Renji - 6 y/o M GSD x chow rescue Training @ The Canine Center - St Cloud, FL "German shepherd dog breeding is working dog breeding or it is not German shepherd dog breeding." -v. Stephanitz

02-02-2009, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
GSD4LIFE21 Master Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Posts: 660	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding wow these people have some nerve. __________________ Marie Catja Z Elbu (PPD) BH CGC (DOB 1/26/06) GSD Kaiyah Vom Draufganger BH TR1 CGC (DOB 5/6/08) GSD Quest Vom Spartanville (DOB 1/31/09) SCH2 BH TR1 CGC GSD Ara od Bartika (DOB Apr 2, 2011)

02-02-2009, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding Diana, that exactly what my thought is. The buyer will try to bad mouth the breeder even tho it's the buyer fault. The of course when that happens what does the breeder do? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

02-02-2009, 09:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
DianaM Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,096	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding So how does a breeder handle that? If you as a breeder are completely in the right and the idiot buyer decides to on your reputation, do you continue enforcing the guarantee or do you try to work something out to smooth the situation? If you enforce your guarantee, how do you practice damage control? __________________ Renji - 6 y/o M GSD x chow rescue Training @ The Canine Center - St Cloud, FL "German shepherd dog breeding is working dog breeding or it is not German shepherd dog breeding." -v. Stephanitz

02-02-2009, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
middleofnowhere Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 12,470	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding Now WHY would someone tell you that they had violated the contract if they were trying to get you to honor your half of it? This doesn't make sense. Would you check through the registry to try to discover if they had violated the contract when they asked for a replacement? How would you discover they hypotheticals on this?

02-02-2009, 09:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: Hips guarantee&breeding Maybe they are just not really that bright? Or maybe they didnt fully understand the contract/agreement? Someone you know found out what they did and told you and you confronted the said buyer? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

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