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06-03-2008, 08:21 AM
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Color breakdowns (%'s)
on another gsd board a member asked approx what percent of gsd are black. i'm in the united states and came up with the following breakdowns based on my observations irl, on boards & rescues...
50% black/tan (incl b/red, b/brown, b/cream, b/silver, & bi colors) 20% sable 15% black 10% white 5% other (blue, liver, panda, fawn) anyone have any input, objections?
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06-03-2008, 09:44 AM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
That's interesting since sable trumps all else. Must not be too many homozygous sables out there.
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06-03-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
Well both showlines (AKC and FCI) are generally looking for black and tan dogs. And if you're only breeding black and tans, you'll only get black/tans, blacks, whites, etc. You'll never get sable that way. It's an easy way to eliminate it from the gene pool. So it doesn't surprise me that black and tan would be statistically more common.
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06-03-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
Just based on observation, it sounds about right to me, assuming blankets and bi-colors are considered black and tans.
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06-03-2008, 01:26 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
Depends on the bloodlines really.
German show lines - 99.9% black & tan is pretty accurate, and almost exclusively of the saddle variety. My guesses for the others: American show lines - probably around 75% black & tan (mostly saddles, but a few blankets), 15% sable, 7% black, 3% bicolor Working lines - 65% sable, 15% black, 15% black & tan (probably evenly split between blanket and saddle, or with a few more blankets than saddles), 5% bicolor 
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06-07-2008, 04:05 AM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
Indeed :-) I'm generally the only sable at a show. Every now and then there are two more that pop up, but for the most part, it's a sea of black and tan.
Of course, that makes it all the sweeter when my sable wins xD
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06-09-2008, 10:00 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
In my area I see far more whites than sables.
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06-09-2008, 10:35 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
I see more black and red. All in the neighborhood...
1 bicolor 2 black and tan 4 black and reds (one is a LH) 1 black and cream 1 sable The fat dog, not sure if he's all GSD and just really fat, black and tan Then there's Morgan, who I've had for 6 1/2 years and still can't decide what she is other than 5 different colors - some say Black and tan, others say gold sable. LOL, she's like a bad home die job from HS. and one crazy bitch who I'm not really sure because she's always moving really fast barking her head off and fence running! Eek, good morning Ginger...
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06-09-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
how do you include blk&red, blk&brown, blk&cream, blk&silver, and bi colors under one percentage (50%) if all of them are different colors???
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06-09-2008, 11:27 PM
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Re: Color breakdowns (%'s)
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All of those you listed, except bi-color, are variations on black/tan. Different hues of tan pigment don't change that genetically the dog is black/tan. Bi-color is a separate color. The 4 (accepted under the standard) colors for GSDs are sable, black/tan, bi-color, and black. That's it.
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