Black GSDs?

ShelleyNelson · 11-23-2007, 05:18 PM

My 6 month old Eisenguard is solid black, no white on his chest at all, however has a few red hairs between a few of his toes. You can only see them when the you physically pull apart his toes!?

Is he bi-colored or still considered a 'black' GSD? I've been told both so I'm interested to know what you all think!

Because he is so cute (and still is), I'll add a pic at 14 weeks old....

Xeph · 11-23-2007, 05:23 PM

Still black xD

wolfstraum · 11-23-2007, 05:57 PM

most blacks will have a few tan hairs between the toes, and white chest spots are common in all colors - blacks, sables and black and red/tans. It does not change the base color name. Blacks will also get some bleed through or "frosting" type coloring as they get older with tan or red on the backs of the legs. I had one male who had sable under his tail (he was a son of 2 sable dogs) and he was still registered as, and considered by all, as a black.

Lee

GunnerJones · 11-23-2007, 06:00 PM

I find that few are willing to give an adult GermanShepherd a real close inspection

so yea he's black

Catu · 11-23-2007, 06:08 PM

And genetically speaking... is black a genetic trait on itself or it's like a very huge blanket? What about bicolors?

GunnerJones · 11-23-2007, 06:14 PM

One of of the old hands around here had a link on how that worked I can't remember who, they'll be along shortly

Dano · 11-23-2007, 06:39 PM

My GSD has tan between the toes and on the back of her legs. She has slowly developed tan in the 3 years I have had her. Her undercoat seems to be a very dark red-brown. It's like she wants to be bi-colored but not quite. She is considered black. She did not have anything but black at 10 wks when I got her.

Dogtired425 · 11-23-2007, 07:27 PM

I always heard that is the hair around the anus is black it is a solid black. If there is tan hair around the anus it is a bi color and will probably get more tan down the legs.
You gotta look under the tail! LOL!

GunnerJones · 11-23-2007, 07:41 PM

My Roxie has black guard hairs but her undercoat is brown. she also has this unfortunate white penciling around her anus that really draws attention to it like a skunk, I've been tempted to take a permanent black marker to it

**Chris Wild** · 11-27-2007, 09:21 AM

Our Kali is black, but has tan between her toes, down the backs of her front legs and around her hocks. As she's gotten older (she's now almost 11) the tan has gotten larger, and she's getting gray hair all over, including lots on her chest and belly and under her chin, not just her muzzle.

Photo showing the tan on her legs:

You can see her random gray hairs in this picture:

Quote:

Originally Posted By: LicanAntaiAnd genetically speaking... is black a genetic trait on itself or it's like a very huge blanket?

Black is a genetic color trait like sable, black/tan, etc... In GSDs it is recessive to all other colors. It's not just a really big blanket.

11-23-2007, 05:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShelleyNelson Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 82	Black GSDs? My 6 month old Eisenguard is solid black, no white on his chest at all, however has a few red hairs between a few of his toes. You can only see them when the you physically pull apart his toes!? Is he bi-colored or still considered a 'black' GSD? I've been told both so I'm interested to know what you all think! Because he is so cute (and still is), I'll add a pic at 14 weeks old....

11-23-2007, 05:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 4,764	Re: Black GSDs? Still black xD __________________ Jackie S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC, Service Dog "Strauss" Joplin von Eichenluft SDIT "Mahler" Mana's 5 Cents for Advice Marcato "Wesson" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" Barrett, the Woodford rescue kitty

11-23-2007, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Re: Black GSDs? most blacks will have a few tan hairs between the toes, and white chest spots are common in all colors - blacks, sables and black and red/tans. It does not change the base color name. Blacks will also get some bleed through or "frosting" type coloring as they get older with tan or red on the backs of the legs. I had one male who had sable under his tail (he was a son of 2 sable dogs) and he was still registered as, and considered by all, as a black. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

11-23-2007, 06:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
GunnerJones Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond ,Virginia Posts: 4,996	Re: Black GSDs? I find that few are willing to give an adult GermanShepherd a real close inspection so yea he's black __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/P1230020.jpg

11-23-2007, 06:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,269	Re: Black GSDs? And genetically speaking... is black a genetic trait on itself or it's like a very huge blanket? What about bicolors? __________________ "The dog does not need to be deranked so much as the people need to learn to act like people worth listening to" Suzanne Clothier. Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; Work in Progress Bagheera, Long term puppy host

11-23-2007, 06:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
GunnerJones Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond ,Virginia Posts: 4,996	Re: Black GSDs? One of of the old hands around here had a link on how that worked I can't remember who, they'll be along shortly __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/P1230020.jpg

11-23-2007, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dano Master Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco Ca. and Spokane Wa. Posts: 648	Re: Black GSDs? My GSD has tan between the toes and on the back of her legs. She has slowly developed tan in the 3 years I have had her. Her undercoat seems to be a very dark red-brown. It's like she wants to be bi-colored but not quite. She is considered black. She did not have anything but black at 10 wks when I got her. __________________ Inga Vom Holtzberg-Black GSD Chaco-White Bull Terrier

11-23-2007, 07:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dogtired425 Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 1,582	Re: Black GSDs? I always heard that is the hair around the anus is black it is a solid black. If there is tan hair around the anus it is a bi color and will probably get more tan down the legs. You gotta look under the tail! LOL! __________________ Cathy Proudly owned by three WGSDs: Sassy Ivory Lady RIP my sweet girl Sandhill's Twist of Fate "Zehra" Hidden Hill's White Ruger Hidden Hill's White Rose HIDDEN HILL WHITE SHEPHERDS

11-23-2007, 07:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
GunnerJones Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond ,Virginia Posts: 4,996	Re: Black GSDs? My Roxie has black guard hairs but her undercoat is brown. she also has this unfortunate white penciling around her anus that really draws attention to it like a skunk, I've been tempted to take a permanent black marker to it __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/P1230020.jpg

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