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Old 07-04-2013, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do we feel about "silver" and black GSDs? I've focused my breeding program on dogs with rich color and have steered clear of any dog I feel doesn't have the correct "look" even if they impress me with their working lineage.

I was contacted regarding a dog for sale. I looked at her bloodline and really liked what I saw... but she's "silver" and black.

She's really got the training and working ability I've been looking for, and that's very important to me, but I don't feel right about adding her to my breeding program because of her color.

I know lots of people like lots of different colors of dogs. I've seen liver shepherds, blue shepherds, of course the white and silver dogs... and I've never paid them any mind. I know what I like, what's "standard" acceptable and that's what I've focused on... but this girl is really pulling at me.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why don't you like her color?


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She's mostly black, and it's not that I don't "like" her color, it's just that it seems kind of faded and washed out to me because I am used to rich red and black dogs.

When I look at a dog, the first and most important thing I review is their lineage, their working ability, and the training they've had, because we live on a farm and it's pointless to bring a dog here if it can't or won't work. But color/coat is the second thing I look at. I don't like dogs that look washed out and have bad color. I've always known what I like and have pretty much stuck to it.

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Reputable breeders don't select for "silver", but if a dog is outstanding in every other way, I don't think you should throw the baby out with the bathwater... color is one of the least important things in my book, though I too prefer rich, saturated pigment. IMO, a "silver" dog could have a place in a breeding program as long as he/she is bred to partners with rich pigment.
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Freestep is right on, and if you are worried about customers being interested in any black and silver dogs that might come out of breeding that dog your asking about, well as for me, if it continues to produce dogs with great working abilities and the parents are both cleared of hip issues, than I would buy one from you.
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I would rather have an ugly dog with brains/temperament/soundness/workability than a pretty dog that had nothing between the ears

(Not saying the silver's are ugly, just a generalization)
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IMHO, if I were a breeder, the last thing I would care about is color. If you like her lines and she would contribute to what you are doing, then why not?

Taste the GSD rainbow. Capt. Stephanitz said himself that there are no bad colors...so the dog might surprise you.

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I would rather have an ugly dog with brains/temperament/soundness/workability than a pretty dog that had nothing between the ears
+1 to that.

Personally, I like all the colors of GSD. I love the rich red-and-black showlines with their leonine ruffs. But I love silver-and-black dogs too; I think there's something elegant about their silvery coloring.

And yes, far far far more important to me than a dog's color is what he or she can do.
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She's at a sheep farm not too far from me, so I might just have to drive out there and take a personal look at her. If she works like they say she does, then I might reconsider.
And again, it's not that she's an "ugly" dog, she's very pretty, heavily blanketed, mostly black, her coat looks good in the pictures. She's not an overly large dog, looks to have good bone structure and her OFA is good. Her color is the only thing holding me back, but I guess that's just my years of personal understanding of the standrard and striving to only to produce acceptable dogs. I my mind when I hear "pale, washed out colors are a serious fault".. that includes silver dogs, because that's "pale"... but that's probably not the most accurate way of thinking?
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IMHO, if I were a breeder, the last thing I would care about is color. If you like her lines and she would contribute to what you are doing, then why not?

Taste the GSD rainbow. Capt. Stephanitz said himself that there are no bad colors...so the dog might surprise you.

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thats great!

And Im with everyone else, if the dog has the linage, drive, temperament, health certs.,training that you like/need/want then go for it, color should be the least of your worries
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