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Old 02-13-2013, 06:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Everyone else's GSD looks big to me. Ruger is only 66lbs @ 21 months old.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Do you know what a roach is?

I'll be honest. I'm sick of people calling the slope when a dog is stacked a roach. A roach, by definition, is when the spine exceeds the height of the withers. And TRUE roaches are highly frowned upon in the show ring.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:30 PM   #33 (permalink)
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A german shepherd doesn't have to be oversized to have a "straight" back. Almost all true working bred dogs are well under the maximum height/weight for the breed standard and have a straighter back then what is trending in some modern showlines right now. Not all showlines have an overly angulated back either though. A roach is not just an arch, a true roach actually inhibits natural movement and shortens the gait on the hindend. No showline breeder wants that either.
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I admit to getting a little perturbed when I (once again!) hear someone saying that my GSD is small. She is 25.5" and 75 pounds, which puts her at the top of the standard for females. I also admit to liking large GSDs as long as they have the proper length/height ratio and are well structured. But the standard is the standard.
Until it changes.
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I admit to getting a little perturbed when I (once again!) hear someone saying that my GSD is small. She is 25.5" and 75 pounds, which puts her at the top of the standard for females. I also admit to liking large GSDs as long as they have the proper length/height ratio and are well structured. But the standard is the standard.
Until it changes.
And change it should. I agree with everything you said.


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Old 02-21-2013, 09:04 AM   #36 (permalink)
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My new bitch is "small" according to the locals who have seen her. She's just at 22", and 54 pounds. She comes directly from German working lines and is a fabulous dog. I've got big plans for her.
BUT because so many people around my area are not as GSD saavy and of the "bigger is better" mindset, she's been frowned upon. Of course those who really know the breed think she's just as fabulous as I do and can't wait to see how she turns out.

I like the "normal" sized dogs personally, fewer joint and bone issues, longer lifespan... and you can have more because they don't take up as much room. LOL
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And change it should. I agree with everything you said.


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Why? Because the General Public wants them to turn in something they are not supposed to be?
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:26 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Also, I don't believe the standard should be adjusted to accomodate the larger dogs. The standard is the standard and should be adhered to. I guess I believe if you're not a fan of a standard meeting GSD's size and think they should be larger, then you're not a true fan of the breed. But that's just my opinion.
And, aren't some people now calling the excessively oversized GSD's "Shiloh Shepherds"?
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Also, I don't believe the standard should be adjusted to accomodate the larger dogs. The standard is the standard and should be adhered to. I guess I believe if you're not a fan of a standard meeting GSD's size and think they should be larger, then you're not a true fan of the breed. But that's just my opinion.
And, aren't some people now calling the excessively oversized GSD's "Shiloh Shepherds"?
Shiloh Shepherds are not oversized GSD's and if people are calling them that then they are wrong.
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I don't think the standard should change. That's like saying all the little dogs standards should change because suddenly everyone wanted 1 pound dogs. The standard is the standard. It's that way for a reason.


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