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Old 01-22-2013, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Found this article on some GSD Facebook site, I think it's full of bologna, but what do I know? Last time I checked long coats are EXACTLY the same as stock coats except length of hair? This temperament stuff is garbage. Unless breeders are breeding a long coAt with a mild temperament. But they can do that with stock coats as well. Opinions? It made me chuckle.
Oh, and they said the long coat isn't a recognized breed?

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I think they are saying that AKC doesn't recognize the long haired dog as it isn't part of the AKC standard. Not that you can't have a long haired dog registered. It's considered a fault.

I suspect the temperment difference would be equal to the lines that more readily present long coated dogs.
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obviously written by an old style long hair coated GSD fan! Here is a thread Long hair question that anwers your post.
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What I meant with the temperament - is that my LC boy does not differ in temperament from his stock coat siblings..He has just as much drive and what not as them...just because he is LC doesn't make him more 'mild'. He is from stock coated parents anyways. I think that if a breeder was breeding specifically for the long coat, and those dogs also had a 'milder' temperament that they were breeding for, than that makes sense, but you can breed a stock coat with a milder temperament also.

I think the article saying LC have milder temperaments is just nonsense. If they randomly pop up in breedings from stock coated parents, their temperament isn't any different.
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obviously written by an old style long hair coated GSD fan! Here is a thread Long hair question that anwers your post.
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If a breeder is breeding JUST for the long coat then they may end up with temperament issues. When you limit your gene pool you run the risk of concentrating the BAD stuff along with the good stuff.

My LC boy Mauser was the only coated puppy in his litter. The sire has the gene to throw coats so it was a genetic gamble that they would appear in the litter.

Lucky me!! I LOVE the long coats. I love to run my fingers through his hair and the shedding really IS less than with my previous stock coats.

BUT - his undercoat is much MORE!! I am in the process of trying to work out all the undercoat he's built up over the past couple months (I'm behind on my brushing).
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I think the article saying LC have milder temperaments is just nonsense. If they randomly pop up in breedings from stock coated parents, their temperament isn't any different.
My boy is from German Showline, stock coated parents. He is a long coat. They had three litters before they lost the bitch. Never had another long coat.

My theory would be if more long coats showed up in a specific line (or working dog vs. show stock), maybe that would weigh on the thought process of temperament. But hair length couldn't possibly change the temperament of a dog. Unless it got cranky when it got hot.
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If a breeder is breeding JUST for the long coat then they may end up with temperament issues. When you limit your gene pool you run the risk of concentrating the BAD stuff along with the good stuff.

My LC boy Mauser was the only coated puppy in his litter. The sire has the gene to throw coats so it was a genetic gamble that they would appear in the litter.

My LC boy came from a litter of stock coats as well! The parents carry the gene, so a random LC pops up here and there.

Lucky me!! I LOVE the long coats. I love to run my fingers through his hair and the shedding really IS less than with my previous stock coats.

BUT - his undercoat is much MORE!! I am in the process of trying to work out all the undercoat he's built up over the past couple months (I'm behind on my brushing).
I LOVE the coaties as well! Mauser is very handsome! Berlin is 7 months, and I brush him every couple of days..hair always comes out, but he isn't TERRIBLE with it, yet.

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My boy is from German Showline, stock coated parents. He is a long coat. They had three litters before they lost the bitch. Never had another long coat.

My theory would be if more long coats showed up in a specific line (or working dog vs. show stock), maybe that would weigh on the thought process of temperament. But hair length couldn't possibly change the temperament of a dog. Unless it got cranky when it got hot.
Yeah thats true. And hahaha i agree , they do get cranky when they get hot!
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We used to make comments regarding the Long Stock Coated puppies......
Owners would call us and tell us just how "perfect and wonderful" they were....we would reply, ..."Of course, they are long stock coats." We would also get emails, telling us how beautiful they are, no health issues, no temperament problems,......and again, we would reply..."Of course, they are long stock coated puppies"......
Being sarcastic to ourselves actually, because at the time (LSC were not allowed to be shown or bred by SV rules)....hence, we had no choice but to sell them. If it were a puppy of stock coat (that we kept)...something SURELY would go wrong! LOL.

IMO...LSC's are usually, the cutest puppies in the litter.
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My long stock coat (out of short stock coated parents) has tons of drive and is not a mellow dog. He is a sweetie and loves to cuddle, but he definitely needs his exercise. He is very similar in personality to all of his siblings and half siblings that I have met and most of those are short coats.

I don't think length of coat has anything to do with it. I once read that all black shepherds were more mellow than other colors. I don't think that is true either
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