Examples of Confirmation - Page 8

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 06:59 PM

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I do agree though that Xeph's pic is a very pretty dog. A bit longer than I'm used to seeing

AKC calls for a longer dog than the SV standard

AmLines do have a tendency to go too long, though. My young bitch is shorter coupled

Correct coupling

GsdLoverr729 · 11-09-2012, 07:08 PM

She's pretty too

She looks more like the ASL dogs I've met so far lol, in length/height ratio. (: I like that her topline doesn't slope down like "\" It's pretty gradual imo... Nice

Looks like she has a nice tail too!

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 07:19 PM

She does! I am also a nutter about tails! Short tails annoy me to no end!

The other thing I love about this girl is her pasterns. Our AmLines also have a tendency to have pasterns that are far too weak (Mogwai has this issue)

GsdLoverr729 · 11-09-2012, 07:27 PM

Hers do look pretty good against my diagrams (I feel like such a nerdy newb >.>).
A lot of the ASL dogs I've met have actually had bigger problems with terrible topline slopes, and cow hocks :/

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 07:39 PM

I can make the above bitch look fairly extreme if I want to. One thing you really need to learn (and it is hard at first) is to see the difference between a dog that is truly extreme and a dog that is stacked to look that way.

A topling can drop rather sharply if stacked the right way. Topline does not necessarily indicate true angulation.

There are all sorts of tricks to make a dog look more extreme than it is.

GsdLoverr729 · 11-09-2012, 07:42 PM

I'm not talking about dogs who look extreme in a stack, I'm talking dogs who are so sloped that their backs are like "\" when they're trotting, stacking, standing, etc. I have seen a few dogs that looked fine until their owners stacked them, and then APPEARED to have a lot more angulation. But when they moved or weren't stacked I could see that they weren't too sloped after all lol.
And with hocks so weak that they not only turn inward but make it clear the dog struggles walking.

I have also seen my fair share (for my inexperience) of ASL dogs who I quite like the look, movement and personality of. All in the breeding/genetics (:

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 07:47 PM

Ahhh, I see what you're saying

Mirada's looser in ligamentation than I'd like, but she won't knit you any new clothing going away. She's a pretty wet dog in general, though.

Vixie and Wesson are much dryer in movement and overall appearance.

Wesson

GsdLoverr729 · 11-09-2012, 07:49 PM

None of their hocks seem to turn inward, I like that. I also like her expression and feminine face. Nice slope again... And she looks to be about the same length/height ratio as Koda is (:

And another nice tail

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 08:23 PM

Hocks turn in for a number of reasons as well. Loose ligaments, overstretched, or just a general growth spurt.

Mirada's hocks turned inward for a little while at around 4.5-5 months old. She had this growth spurt and had a TON of rear and was all awkward and floppy.

Then she grew up, LOL

GsdLoverr729 · 11-09-2012, 08:26 PM

Ahhh, that makes sense (:
You're the first to explain that to me

This is why I love this forum. I learn in person, yes. But I also learn a ton from everyone on here. And yall don't give me dirty looks for getting it wrong or asking questions

11-09-2012, 07:08 PM	#72 (permalink)
GsdLoverr729 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Ga, USA Posts: 3,179	She's pretty too She looks more like the ASL dogs I've met so far lol, in length/height ratio. (: I like that her topline doesn't slope down like "\" It's pretty gradual imo... Nice Looks like she has a nice tail too! __________________ Kymmey http://KaohzandKumatz.yolasite.com Mom To~ Dakoda (b/t GSD), Simi (b/w DSH), Nashoba (sable GSD)

11-09-2012, 07:19 PM	#73 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	She does! I am also a nutter about tails! Short tails annoy me to no end! The other thing I love about this girl is her pasterns. Our AmLines also have a tendency to have pasterns that are far too weak (Mogwai has this issue) __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

11-09-2012, 07:27 PM	#74 (permalink)
GsdLoverr729 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Ga, USA Posts: 3,179	Hers do look pretty good against my diagrams (I feel like such a nerdy newb >.>). A lot of the ASL dogs I've met have actually had bigger problems with terrible topline slopes, and cow hocks :/ __________________ Kymmey http://KaohzandKumatz.yolasite.com Mom To~ Dakoda (b/t GSD), Simi (b/w DSH), Nashoba (sable GSD)

11-09-2012, 07:39 PM	#75 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	I can make the above bitch look fairly extreme if I want to. One thing you really need to learn (and it is hard at first) is to see the difference between a dog that is truly extreme and a dog that is stacked to look that way. A topling can drop rather sharply if stacked the right way. Topline does not necessarily indicate true angulation. There are all sorts of tricks to make a dog look more extreme than it is. __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

11-09-2012, 07:42 PM	#76 (permalink)
GsdLoverr729 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Ga, USA Posts: 3,179	I'm not talking about dogs who look extreme in a stack, I'm talking dogs who are so sloped that their backs are like "\" when they're trotting, stacking, standing, etc. I have seen a few dogs that looked fine until their owners stacked them, and then APPEARED to have a lot more angulation. But when they moved or weren't stacked I could see that they weren't too sloped after all lol. And with hocks so weak that they not only turn inward but make it clear the dog struggles walking. I have also seen my fair share (for my inexperience) of ASL dogs who I quite like the look, movement and personality of. All in the breeding/genetics (: __________________ Kymmey http://KaohzandKumatz.yolasite.com Mom To~ Dakoda (b/t GSD), Simi (b/w DSH), Nashoba (sable GSD)

11-09-2012, 07:47 PM	#77 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	Ahhh, I see what you're saying Mirada's looser in ligamentation than I'd like, but she won't knit you any new clothing going away. She's a pretty wet dog in general, though. Vixie and Wesson are much dryer in movement and overall appearance. Wesson __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

11-09-2012, 07:49 PM	#78 (permalink)
GsdLoverr729 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Ga, USA Posts: 3,179	None of their hocks seem to turn inward, I like that. I also like her expression and feminine face. Nice slope again... And she looks to be about the same length/height ratio as Koda is (: And another nice tail __________________ Kymmey http://KaohzandKumatz.yolasite.com Mom To~ Dakoda (b/t GSD), Simi (b/w DSH), Nashoba (sable GSD)

11-09-2012, 08:23 PM	#79 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	Hocks turn in for a number of reasons as well. Loose ligaments, overstretched, or just a general growth spurt. Mirada's hocks turned inward for a little while at around 4.5-5 months old. She had this growth spurt and had a TON of rear and was all awkward and floppy. Then she grew up, LOL __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

11-09-2012, 08:26 PM	#80 (permalink)
GsdLoverr729 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Ga, USA Posts: 3,179	Ahhh, that makes sense (: You're the first to explain that to me This is why I love this forum. I learn in person, yes. But I also learn a ton from everyone on here. And yall don't give me dirty looks for getting it wrong or asking questions __________________ Kymmey http://KaohzandKumatz.yolasite.com Mom To~ Dakoda (b/t GSD), Simi (b/w DSH), Nashoba (sable GSD)

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