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09-26-2011, 03:36 PM
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Pencil toes and tar-heels
I've always heard that a bi-color must have pencil toes and tar-heels, which this thread seems to indicate. I am curious what GSD colors can and cannot display these traits?
I know I've seen quite a few sables with pencil toes and tar-heels (Killian comes to mind). Is it limited to bi-color and sables only? [EDIT]- additionally- are the two traits always seen together?
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09-26-2011, 04:32 PM
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Bastin Kokeltal was homozygous for BI and did not have the pencil toes, but did have the tar-heels. I have never seen the toe penciling without the tar heels. Most sables that carry black and those that carry BI will also have the tar heels and toe penciling.
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09-26-2011, 04:45 PM
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Shasta had faded toe penciling when she was a pup but it's gone now. Never had tar heels at all. She is a patterned sable.
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09-26-2011, 05:20 PM
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Some melanistic black and tans will show toe pencilling and tar heels, but often it will fade as they age.
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09-26-2011, 05:49 PM
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Wolfie is a black and red. He had pencil toes and tar heels as a baby. His pencil toes have faded to the point where we can only see them on the outside toes of each paw. He still has tar heels.
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09-26-2011, 05:59 PM
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Vinca has pencil toes and tarheels; she is a sable carrying bicolor (I assume--her father is homozygous sable and her mother is bicolor).
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09-26-2011, 06:39 PM
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Onyx is a bi-color with white spotting, so her pencil toes are masked by the white. She has tar heels. Karlo is a dark sable with toe penciling/tar heels though it isn't as dark as when he was younger.
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