Sables = Grey in Australia ?

liv · 05-17-2011, 05:43 PM

I noticed on a breeder's site that someone posted, that the Australian National Kennel Council no longer recognizes or registers GSDs as sables, but they have added grey as an acceptable color.

From the ANKC GSD standard
"Black with reddish tan, Black/tan, Black/gold to light grey markings. All black, Grey (commonly known as sables) with dark shadings; black saddle and mask...." (Australian National Kennel Council)

I'm not experienced, but I haven't seen a lot of sables that look grey, and what does grey with dark shadings mean? Seriously confused

phgsd · 05-17-2011, 07:45 PM

In Germany, sables are "grau" which means grey. So maybe in Australia they are trying to translate more literally?

wolfstraum · 05-17-2011, 07:51 PM

Yep - "sable" is actually grau (gray) on SV paperwork!

Lee

liv · 05-17-2011, 07:59 PM

That makes sense, thanks. Australians often translate foreign languages into English phonetically rather than with the original accent, so I'm not surprised.

Catu · 05-17-2011, 08:21 PM

In Spanish sables are "grises" (gray) too. I don't think it is about translate phonetically, but following the SV terminology. It doesn't mean it includes sable dogs that look gray the eye, every sable dog, with the sable gen is a "grau" in Germany, from gray, dark, black, red and purple spotted sables.

bianca · 05-18-2011, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by liv

That makes sense, thanks. Australians often translate foreign languages into English phonetically rather than with the original accent, so I'm not surprised.

We are a strange bunch!

wolfspirit · 05-20-2011, 01:10 AM

They are called Grey in Italy too!

liv · 05-20-2011, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bianca

We are a strange bunch!

Haha - I grew up in PNG and had the worst north QLD accent, so I'm there with you! I had to work hard on my Canadian accent when I moved back because no one could understand me. If I talk to an Aussie for more than 30 seconds it's back in full force!

juliejujubean · 05-23-2011, 05:55 PM

Regardless they are so pretty. Before last year I did not even know the color existed. Ever since my dad got blitz, I fell in love with the color and got my own. :-)

05-17-2011, 05:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
liv Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 486	Sables = Grey in Australia ? I noticed on a breeder's site that someone posted, that the Australian National Kennel Council no longer recognizes or registers GSDs as sables, but they have added grey as an acceptable color. From the ANKC GSD standard "Black with reddish tan, Black/tan, Black/gold to light grey markings. All black, Grey (commonly known as sables) with dark shadings; black saddle and mask...." (Australian National Kennel Council) I'm not experienced, but I haven't seen a lot of sables that look grey, and what does grey with dark shadings mean? Seriously confused __________________ Liv Kokoda - GSD - 31.03.09 Onyx - GSD - 05.09.09 The man on top of the mountain didn't fall there --Anonymous

05-17-2011, 07:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
phgsd Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,321	In Germany, sables are "grau" which means grey. So maybe in Australia they are trying to translate more literally? __________________ Kira, Kessy, Djenga, Madina & The JRT's

05-17-2011, 07:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Yep - "sable" is actually grau (gray) on SV paperwork! Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

05-17-2011, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
liv Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 486	That makes sense, thanks. Australians often translate foreign languages into English phonetically rather than with the original accent, so I'm not surprised. __________________ Liv Kokoda - GSD - 31.03.09 Onyx - GSD - 05.09.09 The man on top of the mountain didn't fall there --Anonymous

05-17-2011, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,269	In Spanish sables are "grises" (gray) too. I don't think it is about translate phonetically, but following the SV terminology. It doesn't mean it includes sable dogs that look gray the eye, every sable dog, with the sable gen is a "grau" in Germany, from gray, dark, black, red and purple spotted sables. __________________ "The dog does not need to be deranked so much as the people need to learn to act like people worth listening to" Suzanne Clothier. Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; Work in Progress Bagheera, Long term puppy host

05-20-2011, 01:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
wolfspirit Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Up a mountain in central Italy Posts: 132	They are called Grey in Italy too!

05-23-2011, 05:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
juliejujubean Master Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 824	Regardless they are so pretty. Before last year I did not even know the color existed. Ever since my dad got blitz, I fell in love with the color and got my own. :-) __________________ Diamond, Mar 19, 2011 Pictures

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