History of the change in GSD

FredD · 09-09-2010, 11:56 AM

YouTube - History of the change in the german shepherd over the years

Justin0406 · 09-09-2010, 12:15 PM

Wow... Nice video...

**Andaka** · 09-09-2010, 01:07 PM

But he picked out the worst examples of recent dogs on both sides. I know there are top American line dogs that at not that extreme. I owned one.

cliffson1 · 09-09-2010, 02:13 PM

Daphne,
I guess the question is what is the norm for what you see in the American ring? Is your dog's type the norm and the overangulated ones the exception or are the overangulated dogs the norm and your type the exception. Haven't been to many shows in recent years but I guess what wins today normally, should be what is represented.

KZoppa · 09-09-2010, 02:34 PM

thats a pretty big difference. none of my dogs have that angulation. Shelby is straight backed and so is Zena. Shasta for me, is kinda hard to say. But her mom had some angulation and her dad did too....

**Andaka** · 09-09-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffson1

Daphne,
I guess the question is what is the norm for what you see in the American ring? Is your dog's type the norm and the overangulated ones the exception or are the overangulated dogs the norm and your type the exception. Haven't been to many shows in recent years but I guess what wins today normally, should be what is represented.

I would say that the more extreme ones are in the specialty ring and the more moderate ones like mine are shown in the all-breed ring. And since there are more all-breed shows than specialty shows, i guess that makes mine the mainstream.

**Samba** · 09-09-2010, 06:55 PM

Seems specialties have fallen in numbers and entries less, also. I think the more extreme types are not the "main" type, as you say.

Zoeys mom · 09-09-2010, 06:56 PM

My Zoe is definitely not angled like that nor are her parents. I would say that angulation is extreme.

cliffson1 · 09-09-2010, 08:25 PM

Daphne,
Thanks for the reply, I went to Boardwalk Kennel Club show two years ago and saw the GS classes. Thanks for the info.

Eva von Selah · 09-09-2010, 10:04 PM

Eva is from mostly German lines and has a straight back, full coat, large round paws, and powerful hindquarters.

I think the extreme angulation of some dogs is from the influence of American showlines.

In some of those pics in the video, the angulation is quite severe.

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Eva von Selah Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 118	Eva is from mostly German lines and has a straight back, full coat, large round paws, and powerful hindquarters. I think the extreme angulation of some dogs is from the influence of American showlines. In some of those pics in the video, the angulation is quite severe. __________________ Canteen Eva Chelsea von Selah GSD - 3/11/08 Chelsea Girl GSD/Chow - went 15 yrs, 8 months; waiting patiently for me at the Bridge

09-09-2010, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Justin0406 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta Posts: 135	Wow... Nice video...

09-09-2010, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	Daphne, I guess the question is what is the norm for what you see in the American ring? Is your dog's type the norm and the overangulated ones the exception or are the overangulated dogs the norm and your type the exception. Haven't been to many shows in recent years but I guess what wins today normally, should be what is represented.

09-09-2010, 02:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
KZoppa Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Maryland kinda missing CO Posts: 13,809	thats a pretty big difference. none of my dogs have that angulation. Shelby is straight backed and so is Zena. Shasta for me, is kinda hard to say. But her mom had some angulation and her dad did too....

09-09-2010, 06:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,447	Seems specialties have fallen in numbers and entries less, also. I think the more extreme types are not the "main" type, as you say.

09-09-2010, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Zoeys mom Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rockville, Md Posts: 2,941	My Zoe is definitely not angled like that nor are her parents. I would say that angulation is extreme.

09-09-2010, 08:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	Daphne, Thanks for the reply, I went to Boardwalk Kennel Club show two years ago and saw the GS classes. Thanks for the info.

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