Longstock Coat now accepted as a "Coat Variety".

KLCecil · 08-30-2010, 11:40 PM

~Copied from another site~

At last the Long Coat GSD gains recognition (again) and the FCI have now given approval to include it in the GSD breed standard :
1st Change in the racial standards of the hair style " Longhaired with undercoat "
Due to the decision in the Federal Assembly in 2008 and 2009, the SV has applied to the FCI to include in the breed standard of the German Shepherd dogs with the hair style " Longhaired with undercoat " as a separate variety .
The FCI has now agreed to this request with effect from 1.1.2011 .

Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde (SV) e.V.: Aktuell

paulag1955 · 08-31-2010, 12:01 AM

What is the FCI?

**Samba** · 08-31-2010, 12:08 AM

It is a very large canine organization with 84 member countries from around the world.

Présentation de la FCI

Fédération Cynologique Internationale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jessiewessie99 · 08-31-2010, 12:12 AM

I really love Black & Red Long Coats.

paulag1955 · 08-31-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samba

It is a very large canine organization with 84 member countries from around the world.

Présentation de la FCI

Fédération Cynologique Internationale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks!

**Samba** · 08-31-2010, 12:17 AM

And as a separate variety, they will be shown only against one another?

KLCecil · 08-31-2010, 12:30 AM

Here is the link I got the information from;

FCI approve Long Stock Coat GSDs into the standard from 1.1.11 - German shepherd dog

I'm not sure if they would compete against each other like "best of breed of each variety or just be judged strictly separate. Maybe like cockers? Since they have different colors but you will see three varieties in the group ring because they are judged separately, maybe? They have coat varieties in the Belgians but are judged as separate breeds, so probably similar to that.

Liesje · 08-31-2010, 08:11 AM

My understanding is that they would have their own classes. I have not seen any show since the rule change (besides one UKC champion but the dog has always shown and like most things the UKC has been more relaxed). I suspect there isn't and won't be enough demand for it to ever happen, since most people when buying a dog for show avoid long coats. There were plenty of people complaining about long coats not showing but now there's none that seem committed to entering.

**Samba** · 08-31-2010, 08:13 AM

There may not be many at first. The variety is more popular in some places.

KLCecil · 08-31-2010, 01:15 PM

Well I'm excited! I actually get to show my Jaina

She’s a bit young for now but it will be a fun experience and I've never shown in a German show.
The Longstock Coat is identical to a Aussies coat and if they can handle all weather and all terrain, I believe a well bred Longstock Coat can also and this should not exclude them from shows especially since there are so many of them.
I've been doing a lot of "goggling" for Longstock Coat breeders; there is definitely a lack of quality ones, since a lot of them are making up their own standards because of them not being able to show. I hope by allowing them to show now, that this will step up the bar and help provide quality Longstock Coats to the demanding public and the LC lovers.

Oh sorry forgot to point out; The FCI has now agreed to this request with effect from 1.1.2011
Could the lack of LC be because of the effective date with the FCI not being until next year?

08-30-2010, 11:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
KLCecil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Randolph AFB, TX Posts: 244	Longstock Coat now accepted as a "Coat Variety". ~Copied from another site~ At last the Long Coat GSD gains recognition (again) and the FCI have now given approval to include it in the GSD breed standard : 1st Change in the racial standards of the hair style " Longhaired with undercoat " Due to the decision in the Federal Assembly in 2008 and 2009, the SV has applied to the FCI to include in the breed standard of the German Shepherd dogs with the hair style " Longhaired with undercoat " as a separate variety . The FCI has now agreed to this request with effect from 1.1.2011 . Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde (SV) e.V.: Aktuell __________________ ~Kimberly Cecil~ Cataclysm von Dagg "Jaina"

08-31-2010, 12:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
paulag1955 Knighted Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Western Washington Posts: 2,781	What is the FCI? __________________ Paula Shasta - GSD (4/30/10) RIP Duchess - Shetland Sheepdog (12/25/88 - 2/14/04)

08-31-2010, 12:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jessiewessie99 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lakewod, CA Posts: 6,807	I really love Black & Red Long Coats. __________________ Jessica-Shelter Volunteer Molly-GSD ✔ Certified Ninja Dog Tanner-GSD ✔ Certified Lovebug RIP: Max & Simba "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible."-George Chakiris, as said by Agent Derek Mogan

08-31-2010, 12:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
KLCecil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Randolph AFB, TX Posts: 244	Here is the link I got the information from; FCI approve Long Stock Coat GSDs into the standard from 1.1.11 - German shepherd dog I'm not sure if they would compete against each other like "best of breed of each variety or just be judged strictly separate. Maybe like cockers? Since they have different colors but you will see three varieties in the group ring because they are judged separately, maybe? They have coat varieties in the Belgians but are judged as separate breeds, so probably similar to that. __________________ ~Kimberly Cecil~ Cataclysm von Dagg "Jaina"

08-31-2010, 08:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	My understanding is that they would have their own classes. I have not seen any show since the rule change (besides one UKC champion but the dog has always shown and like most things the UKC has been more relaxed). I suspect there isn't and won't be enough demand for it to ever happen, since most people when buying a dog for show avoid long coats. There were plenty of people complaining about long coats not showing but now there's none that seem committed to entering. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

08-31-2010, 12:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,447	It is a very large canine organization with 84 member countries from around the world. Présentation de la FCI Fédération Cynologique Internationale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

08-31-2010, 12:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,447	And as a separate variety, they will be shown only against one another?

08-31-2010, 08:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Samba Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,447	There may not be many at first. The variety is more popular in some places.

08-31-2010, 01:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
KLCecil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Randolph AFB, TX Posts: 244	Well I'm excited! I actually get to show my Jaina She’s a bit young for now but it will be a fun experience and I've never shown in a German show. The Longstock Coat is identical to a Aussies coat and if they can handle all weather and all terrain, I believe a well bred Longstock Coat can also and this should not exclude them from shows especially since there are so many of them. I've been doing a lot of "goggling" for Longstock Coat breeders; there is definitely a lack of quality ones, since a lot of them are making up their own standards because of them not being able to show. I hope by allowing them to show now, that this will step up the bar and help provide quality Longstock Coats to the demanding public and the LC lovers. Oh sorry forgot to point out; The FCI has now agreed to this request with effect from 1.1.2011 Could the lack of LC be because of the effective date with the FCI not being until next year? __________________ ~Kimberly Cecil~ Cataclysm von Dagg "Jaina" Last edited by KLCecil; 08-31-2010 at 01:18 PM.

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