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Old 05-24-2010, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hips Questions.

I have a question about hips, I may have more that pop up when answers start coming in.

Well anyways, I would be looking at pictures at other GSDs and notice their hips seem more muscular or built or bulky. I am not sure the proper term for it.

Well I was wondering about this for my GSD, Molly. Her hips don't seem to be like most. She is a Pet Line GSD.lol. Her dad was big, my sister's friend's brother, has Molly's brother and my sister has pctures of him and his is also big.

I was walking Molly once and these guys stopped us and complimented on how pretty she was and noticed that she didn't have the big hips or muscular hips like most GSDs.

She has since filled out more since this, but her hips are still not as big or muscular as most GSDs.Her legs rae not weak or anything, I am just wondering is this normal that her hips are not as thick as some GSDs? Since she wasn't purposely bred or anything and a Pet line GSD could that be the reason why?

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How early was she spayed, and did you get her from a breeder? I'm not completely sure of the effects of early spaying, but I know in males there is the risk that they will not fill out as much and be tall and lanky.

It's possible that...

A. They (and you) are comparing her to males that are more full bodied.

B. She was spayed early and didn't develope as much muscle mass.

C. She was poorly bred and just didn't develope quite the same as most GSDs.

D. She just doesn't have as much muscle.
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She has rather odd structure for a GSD. Very tall and lean and lanky, and I would expect very quick and athletic. I don't think it appropriate to compare her to other GSDs with very different structure, and especially not to compare one body part of her's to that body part on others.

Her rear end structure is proportionate to the rest of her, as it should be. A more bulky hind end would look very out of place and unbalanced since the rest of her is not bulky.
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That is just her structure. BYBs don't care/look for good structure.
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My male mix was neutered super early so he is VERY tall, lean, leggy, and feminine looking. Most people mistake him for a female. The top of his butt end is actually higher up than his wither which is usually the tallest part of the dog's back. Other than being a long coat, his rear end actually looks quite similar to Molly, with the higher rear and little angulation.

My female GSD is also lean and has very little angulation for a GSD. She has great hips and has some famous working lines close in her pedigree. Not everyone is breeding for extreme rear, and being a small female she doesn't have the muscle mass or that "look" like my male show line, who has more angulation and far more muscle mass in the rear from his training.

I don't think anything is wrong with Molly. There really isn't "normal" even if she's pure GSD because there are so many lines and types and aspects of conformation that people are breeding for or against.
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That is just her structure. BYBs don't care/look for good structure.
She isn't from a BYB, she was $25. He parents owners just never had their dogs fixed. She is an oops litter. Her dad was huge though, and her mom was small.

Thanks everyone. I was just wondering about because I saw other GSDs with bigger hips. I just thought something was wrong.

Yes she is very athletic and fast.lol.

She has I guess you can say filled out more.
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Nope, nothing's wrong, all dogs are different.

btw- bybs are any breeder that isn't reputable. Oops or not. That's just irresponsibleness, but they still bred. At least it's good to know that you didn't get suckered into the tons of people that pay hundreds of dollars for dogs of the same quality.
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Nope, nothing's wrong, all dogs are different.

btw- bybs are any breeder that isn't reputable. Oops or not. That's just irresponsibleness, but they still bred. At least it's good to know that you didn't get suckered into the tons of people that pay hundreds of dollars for dogs of the same quality.
BYBs are a breeder who care nothing for the dogs and charge outrageous prices for poorly bred dogs and purposely breed their dogs because they can, and sadly there is no law against it.I never said they were reputable.

Her parents owners just didn't think they needed to have their dogs fix because they just didn't. They just weren't paying attention more to their dogs and keep them separated when their girl went into heat, but it doesn't make them a BYB. They didn't mean to have puppies, they just weren't being careful.. There are many people who have intact dogs(male and female) that are responsible. You don't have to have an fixed to be a responsible dog owner.They charged $25 to cover the cost of the puppies being whelped and all the other costs of puppies being born.
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No, the term BYB is not limited to those charging "outrageous prices". It is a term used for anyone considered to be irresponsible, whatever each individual user's definition of irresponsible is, but it is not limited to those with a certain price bracket.
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BYBs are a breeder who care nothing for the dogs and charge outrageous prices for poorly bred dogs and purposely breed their dogs because they can, and sadly there is no law against it.I never said they were reputable.

Her parents owners just didn't think they needed to have their dogs fix because they just didn't. They just weren't paying attention more to their dogs and keep them separated when their girl went into heat, but it doesn't make them a BYB. They didn't mean to have puppies, they just weren't being careful.. There are many people who have intact dogs(male and female) that are responsible. You don't have to have an fixed to be a responsible dog owner.They charged $25 to cover the cost of the puppies being whelped and all the other costs of puppies being born.
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