What is sable?

caview · 05-23-2009, 12:58 PM

What is the definition of a sable GSD?

Thank you,
Tanya

gagsd · 05-23-2009, 01:28 PM

http://shawlein.com/The_Standard/07_...&_Pigment.html
or
http://www.4gsd.net/colours.html

caview · 05-23-2009, 02:01 PM

Mary, thank you!

Great articles and pictures -- very interesting!

Tanya

Fodder · 05-23-2009, 02:16 PM

tanya - i just wanted to point out (since i asked about Xargos at the meet)... blanket and saddle back black and tans can also have sable hairs w/o being sable. the ticking is down the back is called a bitch stripe and can sometimes cover a good amount of the body and divide the saddle or blanket. its even more prominent in long coats because their hair is longer. where the description states that a sable will have individual colored hairs with black tips - Tilden also has that... he's even got hairs with several color bands (the root being red, then black, then red again, and a black tip). the sure way to tell is obviously by looking at the pedigree, but also by the way they start off as puppies. i went back and found the first pics that you posted of Xargos, and he's most definitely not a sable - just in case thats why you were asking

but GORGEOUS he is

and a sweetie pie!

Dakota09 · 05-23-2009, 03:07 PM

What would my pup be considered, Hes tan with hints of redish and black with what looks like silver down the back and in his main

caview · 05-23-2009, 03:12 PM

Calone,

Thank you for your kindness (as always) -- no that's not why I was asking : )

Just cannot have enough of these wonderful and magnificent dogs!

Sweetie pie he is and getting better ever day! When he is old enough for us to get another dog, for a while we considered getting an adult, but we enjoyed the transformation from a puppy into an adolescent (and then yet-to-come to an adult), it's just amazing, so must likely it'll be a puppy again as he spoiled us so much ..

Tanya

Fodder · 05-23-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted By: Dakota09What would my pup be considered, Hes tan with hints of redish and black with what looks like silver down the back and in his main

i assume you're taking about Dakota - although this description doesn't match the photos you posted earlier. from the photos of Dakota he is black and tan, and will likely be a saddle back.

Tanya - Xargos is beautiful, and his coloring is pretty unique. i would almost put money down that he was a sable had i not seen his puppy pics and known what kennel he was from. I'm glad your puppy experience has been a good one

....as I wouldn't dare... give me a 10 mo old any day

Dakota09 · 05-23-2009, 03:29 PM

Heres a couple i just took with my phone they are not the best and he didnt want to stop moving. You can really see the red when hes outside. His dad was a red and black

Fodder · 05-23-2009, 04:06 PM

he is black and tan saddle back, with the sable ticking that i mentioned - also called a bitch stripe. sometimes its a stripe, sometimes its a mass. despite the name, it is not uncommon in males.

Dakota09 · 05-23-2009, 04:10 PM

So he would not be considered breed standard?

05-23-2009, 12:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
caview Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SF Bay Area / Saratoga Posts: 1,211	What is sable? What is the definition of a sable GSD? Thank you, Tanya __________________ Xargos Vom Haus Tyson (born Sep., 27, 2008) LoveBug, a brown-with-white Siberian cat, the kindest cat on earth (born Oct.27,2007) Tiger, a red Siberian cat (born Aug.8,2008) -- Lovebug's best friend Pumpkin, an outdoor cat

05-23-2009, 01:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
gagsd Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: georgia Posts: 2,970	Re: What is sable? http://shawlein.com/The_Standard/07_...&_Pigment.html or http://www.4gsd.net/colours.html __________________ Animals do not have rights. Owners have responsibilities. www.columbusworkingdogs.com

05-23-2009, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
caview Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SF Bay Area / Saratoga Posts: 1,211	Re: What is sable? Mary, thank you! Great articles and pictures -- very interesting! Tanya __________________ Xargos Vom Haus Tyson (born Sep., 27, 2008) LoveBug, a brown-with-white Siberian cat, the kindest cat on earth (born Oct.27,2007) Tiger, a red Siberian cat (born Aug.8,2008) -- Lovebug's best friend Pumpkin, an outdoor cat

05-23-2009, 02:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fodder Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NoCal-SoCal Posts: 3,855	Re: What is sable? tanya - i just wanted to point out (since i asked about Xargos at the meet)... blanket and saddle back black and tans can also have sable hairs w/o being sable. the ticking is down the back is called a bitch stripe and can sometimes cover a good amount of the body and divide the saddle or blanket. its even more prominent in long coats because their hair is longer. where the description states that a sable will have individual colored hairs with black tips - Tilden also has that... he's even got hairs with several color bands (the root being red, then black, then red again, and a black tip). the sure way to tell is obviously by looking at the pedigree, but also by the way they start off as puppies. i went back and found the first pics that you posted of Xargos, and he's most definitely not a sable - just in case thats why you were asking but GORGEOUS he is and a sweetie pie! __________________ ...mom to gia, tilden & ziggy

05-23-2009, 03:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dakota09 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 76	Re: What is sable? What would my pup be considered, Hes tan with hints of redish and black with what looks like silver down the back and in his main

05-23-2009, 03:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
caview Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SF Bay Area / Saratoga Posts: 1,211	Re: What is sable? Calone, Thank you for your kindness (as always) -- no that's not why I was asking : ) Just cannot have enough of these wonderful and magnificent dogs! Sweetie pie he is and getting better ever day! When he is old enough for us to get another dog, for a while we considered getting an adult, but we enjoyed the transformation from a puppy into an adolescent (and then yet-to-come to an adult), it's just amazing, so must likely it'll be a puppy again as he spoiled us so much .. Tanya __________________ Xargos Vom Haus Tyson (born Sep., 27, 2008) LoveBug, a brown-with-white Siberian cat, the kindest cat on earth (born Oct.27,2007) Tiger, a red Siberian cat (born Aug.8,2008) -- Lovebug's best friend Pumpkin, an outdoor cat

05-23-2009, 03:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dakota09 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 76	Re: What is sable? Heres a couple i just took with my phone they are not the best and he didnt want to stop moving. You can really see the red when hes outside. His dad was a red and black

05-23-2009, 04:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Fodder Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NoCal-SoCal Posts: 3,855	Re: What is sable? he is black and tan saddle back, with the sable ticking that i mentioned - also called a bitch stripe. sometimes its a stripe, sometimes its a mass. despite the name, it is not uncommon in males. __________________ ...mom to gia, tilden & ziggy

05-23-2009, 04:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dakota09 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 76	Re: What is sable? So he would not be considered breed standard?

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