Easty-Westy standing dogs

emjworks05 · 05-22-2009, 02:59 PM

I was wondering when a dog is Easty-Westy is it from their breeding/genetics or is it from nutrition, or is it something else?

Liesje · 05-22-2009, 03:08 PM

I think it can be a combo of age and genetics, maybe in severe cases there is something structurally wrong. I've been told many times that at least in west German show lines, they don't really care about this, so as far as breeding I don't think it's high on the list of criteria hence why it's so common.

**Andaka** · 05-22-2009, 03:15 PM

It is mostly genetics. In AKC shows, it will be penalized. But because the dogs are generally hand-stacked, it can be covered up with turning the legs straight.

RacerX · 05-22-2009, 03:19 PM

For us novices, could someone explain or post pics of examples. Tx.

emjworks05 · 05-22-2009, 03:24 PM

OK, I was just curious because I was told my older female stands abit like this.

Liesje · 05-22-2009, 03:39 PM

LOL compare that to Nikon, who stood like a ballerina for months!

Standing east/west

Here's all three, not the best examples of each, but Coke (far left) is cow hocked and generally not east/west, Nikon is still a bit cow hocked and east/west, and Kenya is not cow hocked or east/west (though she looks a tad cow hocked b/c of a problem with a rear foot and how she prefers to stand).

emjworks05 · 05-22-2009, 03:49 PM

LOL, boy I just love all of your dogs! What does it mean when a dog is cow hocked?

**Andaka** · 05-22-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted By: Emjworks05LOL, boy I just love all of your dogs! What does it mean when a dog is cow hocked?

It means that the dog stands with the hocks turned inwards. They should stand with the foot and the hock in the same line.

emjworks05 · 05-22-2009, 04:37 PM

Oh I see, thanks Daphne. SO my girl would be considered cow hocked right?

Liesje · 05-22-2009, 05:02 PM

Yes, very slightly. I would say so, but not that she is east-west, at least not in your pic. Cow hocks are also over looked in west German show lines. I don't like them but it's hard to find dogs without it. I love the way my Kenya is put together in the rear. She's not too narrow, no cow hocks, great hips. A little cow hock is fine I think as far as how structurally sound the dog is, most wild dogs have it to some degree. Too much looks bad, makes the dog look a weak and floppy in the rear.

05-22-2009, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Easty-Westy standing dogs I was wondering when a dog is Easty-Westy is it from their breeding/genetics or is it from nutrition, or is it something else? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

05-22-2009, 03:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs I think it can be a combo of age and genetics, maybe in severe cases there is something structurally wrong. I've been told many times that at least in west German show lines, they don't really care about this, so as far as breeding I don't think it's high on the list of criteria hence why it's so common. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

05-22-2009, 03:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs It is mostly genetics. In AKC shows, it will be penalized. But because the dogs are generally hand-stacked, it can be covered up with turning the legs straight. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

05-22-2009, 03:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
RacerX Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 138	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs For us novices, could someone explain or post pics of examples. Tx.

05-22-2009, 03:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs OK, I was just curious because I was told my older female stands abit like this. __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

05-22-2009, 03:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs LOL compare that to Nikon, who stood like a ballerina for months! Standing east/west Here's all three, not the best examples of each, but Coke (far left) is cow hocked and generally not east/west, Nikon is still a bit cow hocked and east/west, and Kenya is not cow hocked or east/west (though she looks a tad cow hocked b/c of a problem with a rear foot and how she prefers to stand). __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

05-22-2009, 03:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs LOL, boy I just love all of your dogs! What does it mean when a dog is cow hocked? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

05-22-2009, 04:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
emjworks05 Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: OR, Sweethome Posts: 1,430	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs Oh I see, thanks Daphne. SO my girl would be considered cow hocked right? __________________ Jessica Annie- 3 yo GSD Beowulf- 1 yo GSD Highplains Christmas Shimmer- Noel

05-22-2009, 05:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Liesje Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 12,962	Re: Easty-Westy standing dogs Yes, very slightly. I would say so, but not that she is east-west, at least not in your pic. Cow hocks are also over looked in west German show lines. I don't like them but it's hard to find dogs without it. I love the way my Kenya is put together in the rear. She's not too narrow, no cow hocks, great hips. A little cow hock is fine I think as far as how structurally sound the dog is, most wild dogs have it to some degree. Too much looks bad, makes the dog look a weak and floppy in the rear. __________________ UCH Alta-Tollhaus-Krieger Lamb Chop FO OB1 CL1R CL1F RA TT HIT TDI CGC VPC's Coca-Cola HIT CGC SG UCH Alta-Tollhaus Bono SchH1 AD T1 FO PA CL1R UNJ UCA HIT TT CGC OFA SG Pantalaimon vom Geistwasser BH AD HIT CGC

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