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Old 05-29-2008, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,
I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to specifics as far as bloodlines/ pedigrees go, but I was wondering if someone could give me more info on the kirschental bloodline. If I'm not mistaken, this is a German working line? Looking at a pup from this origin, and want to know more about what I'm getting into
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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http://www.leerburg.com/fuller.htm
This link is from a conversation Ed Frawley had with Karl Fuller, from the Kirschental Kennels. Onyx has some Kirschental in her background. I thought it was working lines, but was informed it is actually a showline. These dogs are working dogs though, IMO!!
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kirchental Kennels were when Karl was younger known for producing great herding dogs. These dogs were a combination of working and showlines, more on the showlines with working lines to keep the drives where Karl wanted them. Many of the pups today still can herd, it is just that Karl can't any more.
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks, especially for the link! Very useful! I see how they are a cross between show/ working lines. I guess I better get ready for that DRIVE!
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They look like west German show (and do show), but were intended for herding type work. My Kenya's breeder has several of them. One of them is a 12x HGH (herding) and BSZS herding Siegerin. I hope Karl's legacy will live on through the lines.
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Yes....lovely lines This was one of the major reasons I went with the German show line male that sired my last litter...his dam was down from Kirchental and some nice lines at that.

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Kirchental Shepherds are one of the best. if you want the same high quality pedigree, show lines and imported take look at vomVollkommen Shepherds. http://www.vomvollkommenshepherds.com or http://www.vomvollkommen.com. great dogs but cheaper. if i'm not mistaken they're pups are 3,000.00 and up. i might be wrong on the price. vomVollKollmen pups, 1,800.00. i have one and couldn't be happier and believe me i looked hard and long before i found them. when you say "looking at a pup from this origin" what do you mean? is one parent from Kirchental and the other parent from some other breeder? i just thought of something if Kirchental has pet quality Sheps i bet there's a thin line between her pet quality and show dogs meaning her pet quality dogs are gorgeous and smart. good luck in your search for a puppy. don't rush, that special puppy and breeder is going to be out there for you. the longer you look the more you learn. keep notes on the different breeders and dogs. when you start looking at dogs on the Kirchental level you're going to see alot of nice dogs/pups. our boy is a show-working dog. he's calm in the house and active outside (we live in a small house). when you go with those top of the line dogs training is going be a breeze. stick with the forum there's lots of info and knowledge here. take care.
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Kirschental is right here in where I live! Marion Füller now runs the kennel, I think? The page has a flag in English to click on...
http://www.kirschental.de
C'mon, you guys, come over and visit sometime. The SV clubhouse is a 15 minute walk from here!
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The old Kirschental herding lines would be considered "working" and are found in many modern working line pedigrees. The more modern Kirschental stuff is considered German show lines. Many of the dogs can still herd, but the primary focus of the breeding is more geared toward the show ring.
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The Füller are crossing there "Show-lines" with working-lines also.
Saw a litter for sale, from them not to long ago.
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