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post #1 of 2 (permalink) Old 05-31-2015, 05:57 PM Thread Starter
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looking for pedigree Information

I'm considering purchasing a puppy from an upcoming breeding and would like to get some information regarding the health, longevity, and cause of death (where relevant) of the lines behind this breeding. Any other feedback is also appreciated.

The sire is Arthos van het Houten Klumpke pedigree located here : Arthos v.h. Houten Klumpke

The dam is Grimja von Kaltwasser pedigree located here:
Grimja von Kaltwasser

Thank you in advance for any help.
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post #2 of 2 (permalink) Old 06-05-2015, 10:05 AM
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You are asking about what matters the most to many of us, health, longevity, and mortality causes. I don't have this information on any of the dogs in the pedigree. It's never entered in public databases. The one database that has a space for date of death is working-dog.eu but it is rarely filled out. I hope members here have information on individual dogs AND are willing to share it. Looks like the breeder is very aware of health issues, retired a promising young male when he showed spinal issues, uses PennHip, and possibly also x-rays the spine, the latter being crucial imho. Does he do the DNA tests, for what they are worth? Did you ask about the incidence of hemangiosarcoma? The high incidence of hemangio in some breeds incl. GSD points to hereditary component but it is not known to what degree and to my knowledge, markers haven't been identified yet.

Just looking at the pedigrees this looks good to me. Diversity of Dutch, German, and Czech dogs is good. Not heavily line bred on popular sires, good. Many lesser known dogs with advanced titles, good. Many good dogs. I am not an expert in predicting the specific strengths and weaknesses in temperament that might be expected, others here are experts on that. If I were in the market for a breeder pup, I would inquire about this litter.

Good luck!

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