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Karl772 07-02-2014 03:27 AM

How can I actually learn to read and understand pedigree’s and bloodlines?
 
In the next few years I would like to get a working female GSD puppy. I would like to train her in IPO/Schutzhund and possibly some personal protection. If she meets all the health and temperament requirements I would like to breed her.

After doing research just about everyone says for Schutzhund/IPO, personal protection etc the puppy will need to come from good working blood lines.

What exactly is good working blood lines?

How can I learn to look at a dogs pedigree and its blood lines and determine what it would be good for?

Thanks

ShenzisMom 07-02-2014 06:43 AM

Research, research, research. Talk to breeders, owners, other knowledgeable people. Pick one dog you like and go from there. Who were the parents? What are their accomplishments? Temperament? Health? What are they known for producing in the progeny? Then move onto the grandparents and so on. If there an inbreeding factor on the dog you chose spend a little extra time on the dogs that appear more than once.
Go to shows, trials, etc. Have fun too! :)

Karl772 07-10-2014 08:44 AM

Thank you for your advice I will continue my reseach

onyx'girl 07-10-2014 09:23 AM

By doing that research, go to clubs if possible and watch the different lines and how they work.
Looking at both sides of the pedigree is very important, especially if you are looking to breed in the future. You'll need to know what other lines will compliment your bitch...after working and training her, you'll see her strengths and weaknesses. The stud you choose should help balance out those so the litters are not extreme(unless that is what you are breeding for)

If you are on facebook there are a couple of pages worth joining.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/IPOTraining/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1008...53129/?fref=ts

Mister C 07-10-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ShenzisMom (Post 5718193)
Research, research, research. Talk to breeders, owners, other knowledgeable people. Pick one dog you like and go from there. Who were the parents? What are their accomplishments? Temperament? Health? What are they known for producing in the progeny? Then move onto the grandparents and so on. If there an inbreeding factor on the dog you chose spend a little extra time on the dogs that appear more than once.
Go to shows, trials, etc. Have fun too! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by onyx'girl (Post 5756466)
By doing that research, go to clubs if possible and watch the different lines and how they work.
Looking at both sides of the pedigree is very important, especially if you are looking to breed in the future. You'll need to know what other lines will compliment your bitch...after working and training her, you'll see her strengths and weaknesses. The stud you choose should help balance out those so the litters are not extreme(unless that is what you are breeding for)

If you are on facebook there are a couple of pages worth joining.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/IPOTraining/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1008...53129/?fref=ts


So are there any online information sources other than the Pedigree database? The database is a nice start to see things like titles, heritage and line breeding but not much else.

I am coming to the conclusion that the only way to really know this stuff is long, personal experience with clubs and shows. It seems there is no way for a newbie to quickly get up to speed. I would love to be corrected on this point--just don't use a prong collar on me as I am usually a good boy. :D

By the way, I don't have plans on breeding but would like to learn more.

ponyfarm 07-10-2014 10:56 AM

I think Pedigree Data Base is a great tool. I started as a total newbie, no knowledge of GSD lines at all! I did know how to read/research pedigrees due to my horse knowledge, tho.

What I did and still do, is ask questions to any and all GSD owners I come across. I attended Schh clubs, obedience clubs, dock diving, etc. I would try to ask handlers where their dogs came from, kennel name, pedigree (if they knew it). I asked these questions about dogs I liked and dogs that I did not care for. Then I would research on pedigree data base. You definitely need to get out there and see the dogs and meet the people. One advantage I had was teaching a puppy school with lots of german shepherds going through. I got to see what I liked and what I didn't.

You will see patterns in the pedigrees. You will see some dogs names over and over again.

I also read on this forum. Read the threads about dogs that are problems. What is their pedigree/breeding? Read about dogs that are doing great, (well, or are doing things you are interested in) what is their pedigree?

Read the threads asking about specific dogs in the pedigree section.

Read ads on pedigree data base. Read the description. Of course, not all will be totally accurate, but you will start to get a picture of what the dogs are like.

I ended up with my dog by researching for lines that :
competed in IPO, (I wanted to try it),
were considerable biddable and handler friendly
I also met some close relatives and the sire and dam.

Max turned out just like I expected. Or maybe even a bit better! Good luck and have fun!

Karl772 07-15-2014 09:27 PM

Thanks for all the info I'm finding it hard to find dogs and ask their owners since there is no clubs in my state and few in the country but I will keep on trying


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