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Old 05-18-2014, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I've been studying different working lines and I've seen some people stating that wgwl are used mainly for high levels of sporting. Does this mean that they aren't very civil dogs generally? I've also seen some say that they are fairly aggressive. I'm really confused.

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For example, would you consider this to be a sporting line? I'm just curious if anybody could chime in.
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I'll let others with more knowledge of bloodlines in general and WGWL in particular chime in on whether they are appropriate for non-sporting family (although based on what I've seen in other threads I strongly suspect the answer is yes). I think you also need to be a little more careful in your terminology. It seems like you're using the term "civil" as a synonym for polite or well behaved with strangers. My understanding is that when someone says a GSD is a "civil" dog they mean something very different and it could create a real potential for miscommunication if you tell a breeder you are looking for a "civil" dog. "Aggressive" is also something of a loaded word that can be interpreted a number of ways.

BTW - I'm interested to hear what others say about the dog you linked to. My only observation is that generally I prefer the looks of the GSL dogs, but think that is one good looking dog.
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This should explain civil:

Civil - meaning?
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Are you looking to get a dog?
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Are you considering getting a Boy puppy? I've met him and I've owned and trained one of his sons so I could give my opinion but don't really want to use him as an example just because.
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Yes to both questions lol
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Any good Shepherd will bark and alert you. No need to get caught up in the civil mumbo jumbo.

This is over generalizing but if you want the most "real" of all the different stereotypical working lines then get a czech dog. High natural suspicion and have no problem biting. Also pretty territorial. Wouldn't recommend a plumber just walking into your house without permission. Then again I wouldn't recommend a good czech dog to a first time owner either.
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Any good Shepherd will bark and alert you. No need to get caught up in the civil mumbo jumbo.

This is over generalizing but if you want the most "real" of all the different stereotypical working lines then get a czech dog. High natural suspicion and have no problem biting. Also pretty territorial. Wouldn't recommend a plumber just walking into your house without permission. Then again I wouldn't recommend a good czech dog to a first time owner either.

Ok thanks! Just the way some people refer to sports dogs make it seem like they are retrievers that play tug on a sleeve with no real aggression
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Ok thanks! Just the way some people refer to sports dogs make it seem like they are retrievers that play tug on a sleeve with no real aggression
Those kinda dogs are common. Civil, socially aggressive dogs aren't for everyone, but are manageable by a first time owner if they really consider what is entailed before getting such a dog
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I can handle it, I've had other aggressive breeds before, and a shepherd, just wasn't a working line...
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