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Old 02-10-2014, 11:39 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Just to make a point...how do I know black/tan is preferred? Look at the breed ring at Westminster, the top dogs in the country, and not a single one is sable. No one can tell me that the top dogs (breeders) don't avoid sable on purpose...
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the American / Canadian GSD show crowd tends to take its cues from the results of specialty shows , especially the show to end the year - the annual National Specialty where a Grand Victor / Grand Victrix is crowned .

In Canada it happened to be a solid black GV CAN SEL CH Billyjo's Man In Black - (sister?) going Best of Opposite.
His mother also a GVX , progeny of a sable , progeny of a sable.

If there is a deliberate avoidance of sable these dogs would never have been implemented in a top flight breeding program.


here is your USA equivalent "Megabucks"
-- a big dog ! but don't mind the movement -- balanced , dogs moving away from the extreme of recent years and looking more like the dogs in the early 80's (as per Review, Red Books, etc) GV AM/CAN SEL EX CH Woodsides Megabucks
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Just to make a point...how do I know black/tan is preferred? Look at the breed ring at Westminster, the top dogs in the country, and not a single one is sable. No one can tell me that the top dogs (breeders) don't avoid sable on purpose...
Just because there are no sables that came to Westminster this year, doesn't mean "top" breeders aren't breeding sables. You might know someone that doesn't like sables, but that doesn't mean that "No one can tell me that the top dogs (breeders) don't avoid sable on purpose...". I don't know why you are so adamant to "prove" top breeders don't breed sables. It's just not true.


AM/CAN Ch. Ranita's I'll Have Another is a sable bitch that got a Group placement LAST WEEK.

Sergio Espejo shows A LOT of sables. Has for years.

Laurie Jeff Greer is breeding sables. One her sable puppies went Best Puppy at the Dallas GSD specialty last month.

I could keep typing names of sable dogs that are out there showing and winning, but I guess unless they were standing in the ring at Westminster this morning, then I'm just imagining things.
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AM/CAN Ch. Ranita's I'll Have Another is a sable bitch that got a Group placement LAST WEEK.
This particular bitch's dam is a sable (GCH Ranitas Princes Of Zyeata), and her sire just happens to be a full brother to Fritz, that took Breed today at Westminster. (Ch. Wolf Creek Phoenix of Merivern ROM)

I would consider the Wolf Creek Merivern dogs to be from top breeders. Fritz's full sister Am.& Can.Sel.Ch. Wolf Creek Kallie of Merivern is a sable.
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I'm done. I'm tired of typing. I'm going to go eat Mediterranean food, and then watch the Groups tonight.
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Okay, Im back.

I just wanted to add that "Fritz" today's Best of Breed winner at Westminster, SELECT #2 GCH Wolf Creek Galaxy Of Merivern, has a sable mother, sable grandmother, sable great-grandmother, and sable great great grandmother. These are Tazzman and Woodside bitches.

Okay, I'm seriously done beating this horse. I'm going to start seeing sables in my sleep....
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exactly . thank you dogfaeries .
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thank you, Carmen.
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I remember some years ago, I saw a nice sable in a dog show on espn. I cant remember the name, but that was a beautiful dog and the first time I saw a sable on tv. Maybe around early 2000s.
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Could've been Ch. Windwalker's Leroy Brown. He was a multiple Best in Show winner, Award of Excellence winner.
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