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ohdev 12-13-2013 01:44 AM

Genetic Trackers?
 
If you were looking for a puppy with lots of potential for detection work, as well as protection, what dogs that are producing right now would you go to?

I've read the old threads on bloodlines that bring nice tracking and hunt drives, but I'm interested in hearing what dogs really stand out right now with these qualities, and what they're producing.

HarleyTheGSD 12-13-2013 01:52 AM

Are you asking about specific breeders or bloodlines?

ohdev 12-13-2013 02:03 AM

I suppose I'm looking for both really, with an emphasis on currently producing studs or dams. I'm grateful for any advice, line or breeder recommendations any can give me. I'm usually a lurker/reader and not a poster, so sorry if I'm not clear enough.

This thread was very helpful to me in learning some lines that carry strong tracking ability: http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-tracking.html

So now I'm interested in what dogs are producing good strong noses at the moment, true to whatever lines they may be bred on. If there are any that stand out that is.

carmspack 12-13-2013 08:01 AM

Yes . There are dogs being bred for this right now . Strong instinctive tracking . Here is a pedigree of Carmspack Nicholas certified detection dog - working every single day -- ready for SAR evaluation , Carmspack Stan is sire (brother is a dual police dog)

Nick's dam Chiba vom Parchimer Land

recently bred to Carmspack Claudia sister to bomb dog Silva, and two sisters who are narc and SAR Carmspack Claudia

I do not own these animals , they are in professional working hands , it is their litter bred for their need for strong tracking dogs -- I do the breeding plans , consultant , evaluation of pups. Also consultant for a law agency wanting a secure source of dogs with high hunt / search / tracking, so they have a little breeding program.

In another thread panties got in a twist because I put out pedigrees and provide information about my dogs. (where are the oldtimers) Why not , when as in those cases , whether it was "Buffy" or genetic obedience, or tracking , pedigrees and a record of the dogs were an important part of the answers/discussions .
I don't have anything to sell. I am providing pedigree information , which is what genetics is, so that the OP can dissect the pedigrees and find similar genetics -- or other people with a desire to learn can do so.
this link back to a previous thread has lots of good information.
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...-tracking.html
Tracking by and large is neglected . This is not schutzhund tracking . These pups can be tracking fiends as early as they can run Kade as an example owned by the same person as Nicholas . Kade at 10 weeks of age was doing searches where he would not break off - totally bloody minded determined , elvations, unstable footing , object to be found had no meaning to him (so not a toy - just what happened to be available in the environment) , no food reward, tons of praise and connection feedback , no hesitation , would leap onto a 3 foot rubble pile with skids and yard waste like a lizard onto a wall . Fire-in the belly .
Saphire with her dog in tracking training can vouch for this.

The genetics are out there .

G-burg 12-13-2013 08:28 AM

I've heard that Ernst vom Weinbergblick produced good genetic natural trackers.

carmspack 12-13-2013 08:59 AM

Ernst can track -- I like Hank better ,

revisit this thread on Dusty z udoli upy http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...udoli-upy.html

consensus for the genetics !!

that was a breeding in consideration --- may be changed up to
a sister to Saphire's GUS -- so includes Chiba Parchimer Land , and Journey's brother Sumo Carmspack Sumo

we'll see soon - but I really like this Dusty for many reasons -- did have talk with owner -- the dog is strong tracking for sure , plus has a good base of old herding genetics .

Jax08 12-13-2013 09:30 AM

My little guy seems to have a very nice hunt drive. What dogs in his pedigree contribute to that?

Seger vom Sitz von der Hose

G-burg 12-13-2013 09:39 AM

I've heard Escobar van Adelrik supposedly produced nice hunt drive..

Uniballer 12-13-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jax08 (Post 4665042)
My little guy seems to have a very nice hunt drive. What dogs in his pedigree contribute to that?

All of 'em :)

Seriously, my young dog (Q litter Sitz von der Hose - so your dog's older brother) has a lot more hunt drive and persistence for "that object" than my dog that had almost the same pedigree as Nike (mine was Jai x Chukkie). I don't know if it is all from Eros (Iron) though.

Jax08 12-13-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Uniballer (Post 4665210)
All of 'em :)

Seriously, my young dog (Q litter Sitz von der Hose - so your dog's older brother) has a lot more hunt drive and persistence for "that object" than my dog that had almost the same pedigree as Nike (mine was Jai x Chukkie). I don't know if it is all from Eros (Iron) though.

Those Nike/Eros pups sure are something :wub: I am loving his hunt drive. So much fun to watch.


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