Help with Pedigree/Bloodline

bek6b · 02-08-2013, 08:28 AM

Ok so I am in the process of getting my first GSD. The father of the pup I am getting parents are Sir Von Barren Weaver and his mother is Madam Von Dutchess Weaver. Can anyone help me or direct me where to go from here?

**jocoyn** · 02-08-2013, 08:39 AM

It may help if you post a link to the kennel or the pedigree....have not heard of them and don't find anything on a quick search.

Some of the dogs in the pedigree *may* be here (data is user entered)
www.pedigreedatabase.com

Did not find anything on the OFA database where breeders have their dogs' hips and elbows evaluated and graded to help reduce incidence of dysplasia and other genetic diseases
Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

I would get a lot more information before I committed to this purchase. Have you at least met the parents?

bek6b · 02-08-2013, 08:57 AM

Yes I have met them and they are great all around. I will do what you say though. I really appreciate you. Thanks so much!

wolfstraum · 02-08-2013, 09:09 AM

From the registered names, there is nothing to deduce what the bloodlines are....Is the last name of the breeder Weaver by chance???

At the very least, be sure that the parents are OFA certified to be free of hip dysplasia....just because "they run around and look fine" does not mean anything! Do either of the parents have ANY type of training and credentials??? A CD, a CGC, Rally? ANYTHING?

To get the best chance of a healthy stable dog, you should buy a puppy whose parents are proven to have no hip/elbow dysplasia (the OFA Certification) and whose temperament has been tested and judged by someone neutral and qualified. Normally, I would suggest IPO/Schutzhund titled parents, but by the little info given, I doubt they are titled or training for those....at the very very very least, a CD under AKC judges would substantiate that the dogs have decent nerves and trainability as they would have to go to at least 3 shows and qualify with a 170 out of 200 possible points. Dogs are comfortable in their homes, and the owners may never see any issues there, so proving that in a neutral venue is the MINIMUM that you should require of a breeder who is producing a puppy who will be your companion for the next 10-12 years.

Lee

shepherdmom · 02-08-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bek6b

Ok so I am in the process of getting my first GSD. The father of the pup I am getting parents are Sir Von Barren Weaver and his mother is Madam Von Dutchess Weaver. Can anyone help me or direct me where to go from here?

Is your breeder in Arizona? If so please pm me.

**JakodaCD OA** · 02-08-2013, 10:35 AM

"weaver' is my maiden name LOL..but no idea on these

Catu · 02-08-2013, 11:56 AM

I found this: Would be a full brother of your pup.
Males - www.mkhortonshepards.com
This is not the breeder you are looking for, but someone breeding with one of his dogs, yet I can infer two things:
- They breed the same pair together more than once, so these are really super pups or they don't want to pay for stud fees.
- "Champion bloodlines" usually implies they do nothing with their dogs, so they rely on titles back in the pedigree.

The first thing that caught my eye on Maxx is how loose he is.

02-08-2013, 08:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
bek6b New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3	Help with Pedigree/Bloodline Ok so I am in the process of getting my first GSD. The father of the pup I am getting parents are Sir Von Barren Weaver and his mother is Madam Von Dutchess Weaver. Can anyone help me or direct me where to go from here?

02-08-2013, 08:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,848	It may help if you post a link to the kennel or the pedigree....have not heard of them and don't find anything on a quick search. Some of the dogs in the pedigree may be here (data is user entered) www.pedigreedatabase.com Did not find anything on the OFA database where breeders have their dogs' hips and elbows evaluated and graded to help reduce incidence of dysplasia and other genetic diseases Orthopedic Foundation for Animals I would get a lot more information before I committed to this purchase. Have you at least met the parents? __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

02-08-2013, 09:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 8,204	From the registered names, there is nothing to deduce what the bloodlines are....Is the last name of the breeder Weaver by chance??? At the very least, be sure that the parents are OFA certified to be free of hip dysplasia....just because "they run around and look fine" does not mean anything! Do either of the parents have ANY type of training and credentials??? A CD, a CGC, Rally? ANYTHING? To get the best chance of a healthy stable dog, you should buy a puppy whose parents are proven to have no hip/elbow dysplasia (the OFA Certification) and whose temperament has been tested and judged by someone neutral and qualified. Normally, I would suggest IPO/Schutzhund titled parents, but by the little info given, I doubt they are titled or training for those....at the very very very least, a CD under AKC judges would substantiate that the dogs have decent nerves and trainability as they would have to go to at least 3 shows and qualify with a 170 out of 200 possible points. Dogs are comfortable in their homes, and the owners may never see any issues there, so proving that in a neutral venue is the MINIMUM that you should require of a breeder who is producing a puppy who will be your companion for the next 10-12 years. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Komet, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB~ Kougar Sch3, Kyra Sch3, Cito Sch2, Alice Sch1, Kelsey CD, Ret ~ Basha Sch3, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

02-08-2013, 10:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,542	"weaver' is my maiden name LOL..but no idea on these __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

02-08-2013, 11:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,538	I found this: Would be a full brother of your pup. Males - www.mkhortonshepards.com This is not the breeder you are looking for, but someone breeding with one of his dogs, yet I can infer two things: - They breed the same pair together more than once, so these are really super pups or they don't want to pay for stud fees. - "Champion bloodlines" usually implies they do nothing with their dogs, so they rely on titles back in the pedigree. The first thing that caught my eye on Maxx is how loose he is. __________________ Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; IPO-A1 Last edited by Catu; 02-08-2013 at 12:00 PM.

02-08-2013, 08:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
bek6b New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3	Yes I have met them and they are great all around. I will do what you say though. I really appreciate you. Thanks so much!

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