Some info about this pedigree

JPF · 12-29-2012, 03:18 PM

Hello,
This is my dog:

Enzo Vom Hinterland

I wanted to know his pedigree better since when i purchased him I really had no idea (i thought i did) about german shepherds and the different lines.

I know the fathers side is WGSL's but I am trying to see what some of the dogs on his mothers side are? Seems from my limited knowledge to be WL but DDR, Czech, Belgium, WGWL?

Thanks in advance for the help.

carmspack · 12-29-2012, 03:24 PM

sire is WGSL.
dam has some WGWL -- (on her sire) but for the rest there is not enough information provided .

sounds like someone had a formulaic breeding taking a "working" (type) to a show line for conformation improvements

JPF · 12-29-2012, 03:42 PM

Thanks Carmen...

Freestep · 12-29-2012, 04:50 PM

Show/working line cross, but there's no information about the dam's dam line, so it's hard to say. Best to ask the breeder where their dam line came from and what they are trying to accomplish with this breeding.

JPF · 12-29-2012, 05:04 PM

Thanks Freestep...We know what we have by now (enzo is 2)...He is a red patterned sable. High drive, tireless. We recently decided to pursue his BH with our trainer and depending how he does try for Schh 1. He is a wonderful dog. He is my first shepherd. Next time we will know so much more in selecting a shepherd (because of this board).
Thanks again for your input.

GSDGenes · 01-02-2013, 12:05 AM

Link to 6 gen pedigree for Enzo vom Hinterland/
6 generation long pedigree for Enzo Vom Hinterland

Link to photos and pedigree of Hinterland's Katrina of V Oak, one of the dogs in your pedigree that has no info behind her.
Hinterland's Katrina of V. Oak, CD, TC, CGC, GSDCA 13 Club

Link to info, photos, and pedigree of International Champion Hinterland's Hetzii, CACIB, CD, HT, TC, CGC (DL532538/02) OFA Good H&E (GS-47971G31F-T, GS-EL6638-T).
Hinterland's Hetzii CD, HT, TC, CGC, OFA Good

Link to info, photos, and pedigree for Axl vom Camdenerland, SchH3, IP3, FH OFA Good H&E (GS-28628G24M, GS-EL787
KKL II Lbz Axl vom Camdenerland, SchH3, IP3, FH, OFA Good

Link to info, photos, and pedigree for Ziggy vom Haus Ledda Sch 1, BH, AD, CD, ASCA-CD, CGC, including info for his dam Bicca vom Freizeitfresser, SchH3, CDX, OFA Good
Hinterland resident sire: Ziggy vom Haus Ledda

Photos of Hinterland's Ms Daisy can be seen here:
Previous litters from Hinterland

BTW my signature is outdated, ignore it.

Catu · 01-02-2013, 01:10 AM

All dogs on the Hinterland website were already on PDB, so I filled the gaps.

JPF · 01-27-2013, 01:56 AM

Thanks so much for doing that work. Looks like the bitch line is american show line up until relatively recently

**Andaka** · 01-27-2013, 02:21 PM

ASL/American pet line -- mostly pet line.

Debbieg · 01-27-2013, 02:40 PM

Your dog is a half sibling to mine. Both have the same sire!

12-29-2012, 03:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
JPF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 179	Some info about this pedigree Hello, This is my dog: Enzo Vom Hinterland I wanted to know his pedigree better since when i purchased him I really had no idea (i thought i did) about german shepherds and the different lines. I know the fathers side is WGSL's but I am trying to see what some of the dogs on his mothers side are? Seems from my limited knowledge to be WL but DDR, Czech, Belgium, WGWL? Thanks in advance for the help.

12-29-2012, 03:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
carmspack Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 5,552	sire is WGSL. dam has some WGWL -- (on her sire) but for the rest there is not enough information provided . sounds like someone had a formulaic breeding taking a "working" (type) to a show line for conformation improvements __________________ Carmen ******** Carmspack**

01-02-2013, 12:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
GSDGenes Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 78	Link to 6 gen pedigree for Enzo vom Hinterland/ 6 generation long pedigree for Enzo Vom Hinterland Link to photos and pedigree of Hinterland's Katrina of V Oak, one of the dogs in your pedigree that has no info behind her. Hinterland's Katrina of V. Oak, CD, TC, CGC, GSDCA 13 Club Link to info, photos, and pedigree of International Champion Hinterland's Hetzii, CACIB, CD, HT, TC, CGC (DL532538/02) OFA Good H&E (GS-47971G31F-T, GS-EL6638-T). Hinterland's Hetzii CD, HT, TC, CGC, OFA Good Link to info, photos, and pedigree for Axl vom Camdenerland, SchH3, IP3, FH OFA Good H&E (GS-28628G24M, GS-EL787 KKL II Lbz Axl vom Camdenerland, SchH3, IP3, FH, OFA Good Link to info, photos, and pedigree for Ziggy vom Haus Ledda Sch 1, BH, AD, CD, ASCA-CD, CGC, including info for his dam Bicca vom Freizeitfresser, SchH3, CDX, OFA Good Hinterland resident sire: Ziggy vom Haus Ledda Photos of Hinterland's Ms Daisy can be seen here: Previous litters from Hinterland BTW my signature is outdated, ignore it. Last edited by GSDGenes; 01-02-2013 at 12:06 AM. Reason: say my signature is outdated til i figure out how to update it

01-02-2013, 01:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Catu Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Valdivia, Chile Posts: 4,538	All dogs on the Hinterland website were already on PDB, so I filled the gaps. __________________ Diabla, my Daemon; SchH A, RH-T A Akela, my Direwolf; IPO-A1

01-27-2013, 02:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,931	ASL/American pet line -- mostly pet line. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/sear...n_shepherd_dog Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag CDX GN RE (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); and Ch. Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

12-29-2012, 03:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
JPF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 179	Thanks Carmen...

12-29-2012, 04:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Freestep Crowned Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,158	Show/working line cross, but there's no information about the dam's dam line, so it's hard to say. Best to ask the breeder where their dam line came from and what they are trying to accomplish with this breeding.

12-29-2012, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
JPF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 179	Thanks Freestep...We know what we have by now (enzo is 2)...He is a red patterned sable. High drive, tireless. We recently decided to pursue his BH with our trainer and depending how he does try for Schh 1. He is a wonderful dog. He is my first shepherd. Next time we will know so much more in selecting a shepherd (because of this board). Thanks again for your input.

01-27-2013, 01:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
JPF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 179	Thanks so much for doing that work. Looks like the bitch line is american show line up until relatively recently

01-27-2013, 02:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Debbieg Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Calif Posts: 1,398	Your dog is a half sibling to mine. Both have the same sire! __________________ Benedict GSD 4/13/09 Angelina Pit adopted 8/11/09 Jake Borzoi 12/3/10 Waiting at the Bridge Eli GSD Chopper APBT Raphael GSD http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1007494 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/610245.html

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