thoughts on her pedigree, please... - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-15-2012, 04:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 13
Default thoughts on her pedigree, please...

What are your inputs on her pedigree?
Dakota Von Miller Haus
dnh314 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-15-2012, 08:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
wolfstraum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 9,544
Default

there is no line breeding, which IMO is a good thing in the WG Showlines.....I did not look for back massing tho!


Lee
__________________
Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, SG Bengal, Lynx, Komet, Kira HGH & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Ziberia IPO1 ~ ATB Basha IPO3, Danger Sch1 RH SAR ~ Kougar & Kyra, Cito, Alice, Kelsey, Ret ~ Fenja
wolfstraum.net

wolfstraum is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 02:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
GSDGenes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 99
Default

Whenever you need more insight on a pedigree, it often helps to look at the 6 generation pedigree.

In the 6 generation pedigree for Dakota here:
6 generation long pedigree for Dakota Von Miller Haus

you can clearly see her pedigree is solidly German conformation show lines, with many very well known dogs and kennels represented. You can also get a truer idea of what linebreeding etc exists further back in the pedigree. For instance you will see that Jeck Noricum appears multiple times in this pedigree, as does Visum Arminius, Fanto v Hirschel, Uran WildsteigerLand and others.

Ero vom Batu SchH3 liver carrier
Fanto vom Hirschel SchH3FH Sieger liver carrier
Jeck v Noricum SchH3FH Sieger liver carrier
Uran v Wildstieger Land SchH3FH Sgr -b/t carried blue & dwarfism
GSDGenes is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 03:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 13
Default

Thanks wolfstraum and gsdgenes, pardon my ignorance but what does liver carrier mean?
dnh314 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 05:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
GSDGenes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 99
Default

Liver is a recessive color dilution of the blafck pigment found in many bloodlines of the GSD. The liver gene acts to block the action of the black pigment, so all the dog's pigment which would normally be black, is changed to a chocolate brown color which is called liver in the GSD breed.

Blue is another recessive color dilution gene found in many bloodlines of the GSD. The blue gene acts to turn all the black pigment of the dog to a dark to medium bluish gray color.
GSDGenes is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 02:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Xeph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: New Castle, PA
Posts: 5,540
Send a message via AIM to Xeph Send a message via Yahoo to Xeph
Default

Liver is not a dilute color. It changes pigment, but it is not a dilution.
__________________
Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat)

Strauss: Service dog/old man
Wesson: The soon to be champion
Loch: Service dog in training
Barrett: The Frikken Tikken
Xeph is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 06:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
"I like Daffy" Moderator
 
Andaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis)
Posts: 3,272
Default

Anything that "lessens" the color black is considered a dilution.
__________________
Daphne and the Gang at Andaka
Where Beauty and Brains Come Together
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/sear...n_shepherd_dog
Home of Ch Doll; U-CDx Jag CDX GN RE NAP NJP OA AXJ(ch ptd); and Ch. Fisher (Mr. Evil)
At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Natty; Ch Red the Dachshund

Last edited by Andaka; 01-03-2013 at 03:08 PM.
Andaka is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-02-2013, 08:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
Crowned Member
 
Freestep's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Northern California
Posts: 6,117
Default

The Liver gene and the blue gene both "dilute" black, but each has a different mechanism for doing so. I used to know how both liver and blue worked but cannot remember the specifics. Anyone?
Freestep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:30 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset Hound Forum Doberman Forum Golden Retriever Forum Beagle Forum
Boxer Forum Dog Forum Pit Bull Forum Poodle Forum
Bulldog Forum Fish Forum Havanese Forum Maltese Forum
Cat Forum German Shepherd Forum Labradoodle Forum Yorkie Forum Hedgehog Forum
Chihuahua Forum Retriever Breeds Cichlid Forum Dart Frog Forum Mice Breeder Forum