Input on this Pedigree, please?

[holland]

Thats just so silly ...both you and Sue have your websites listed in your signature lines and thats not advertising-to say keep looking is cryptic--and just because Sue doesn't think its a good breeder really doesn't convey anything...trust yourself with whatever you decide to go with and whatever your criteria is

[holland]

...although she using a bi-color stud dog...

[intriGSD]

Originally Posted by lhczth

We are not allowed to bash breeders on this board so often it is just safer (to avoid a warning) to say "keep looking" or "this is not a breeder I would get a puppy from". Sue is just telling you that this is not a breeder she would purchase from.

Pointing to one's own website would be advertising so that too is not allowed.

Good to know- I didn't consider that, was just looking for more information. PM's wouldn't be subject to those guidelines, or?... Bashing is one thing, providing factual information another. This shouldn't turn the thread into a debate about posting information, I'd just like to have information at hand about breeders in consideration if those with the information would consider sending a PM my way.

Thanks!

[lhczth]

Yes, people can bash away in PM's. Information is allowed to be posted and recommendations.

[Catu]

Originally Posted by Smithie86

Keep looking....

You mean Haus Gill or the first "breeder" posted?

[intriGSD]

Originally Posted by Catu

You mean Haus Gill or the first "breeder" posted?

I think that reply was to the Haus Gill question..


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[carmspack]

I don't think so . The keep looking was meant for the first breeder !

[Valerie Clayton]

Al Gill has been around for a looong time, he has 100s if not 1000s of happy customers, and I'm sure a few unhappy ones because you can't please everybody. He breeds with the goal of producing police K9s, and he likes a specific kind of dog for street which may or may not be what's popular at the moment. I won't paraphrase him on what kind of dog he likes because I'm afraid I would misquote him! But he's an honest guy, he'll tell you what kind of dog he has, what you might expect from a pup and if he thinks it'll meet your needs.

A long time Schutzhund guy at our club, who just put the IPO2 on his dog from popular Czech lines, was just saying at training last week that the best working dog he ever had was a pup he got from Al. I used Al's new male Dago on my bitch this year. I didn't breed to sell pups, I bred to have a pup to compete in IPO. My 1st priority was iron clad, unshakable nerve; then good prey, then accessible defense; and finally good structure. I did NOT want any "slow maturing" or weird "fear periods" or any of that nonsense. My pup is just 4 months now, but so far she is exactly what I wanted. Here she is annoying my husband for the ball: Abby von den Wachhunden des Bach, not quite 4 months - YouTube Her 2nd bitework session was at night and she was under 4 months, she was right there at the end of the leash - never hackled, never took a step back. So I'm very happy with my Haus Gill sired pup so far.

All that said, I don't know if Al has the right pup for you because I don't know you. There are lots of good places to get a good working pup in MI/OH/IN/IL/TN, including people on this board, Al is just one of them.

[holland]

The comment was ambigous-seriously any breeder I was interested inI would go visit and Iwould have a list of things that mattered to me and if I was seeking advice I would seek it from people I actually knew

[sddeadeye]

I posted in your other thread as well. Seeing as you are from the Dakotas, as am I, I know there is one breeder in MN that has received good reviews from what I have seen that you may want to consider.

Staatsmacht Kennel, one of the top working lines kennel in the world