Spirit's Pedigree

[Jo Ellen]

I was able to trace him all the way back to Hektor, 1898. That's about the most exciting thing I've done all year LOL

Crescent Moon's Indomitable Spirit

It's interesting how vulnerable I feel sharing his pedigree on the open forum. His dam's sire is Pascha Vom Seewolf, love looking at his photo.

About Hektor....

"Horand embodied for the enthusiasts of that time the fulfillment of their fondest dreams. He was big for that period, between 24" and 24 1/2", even for the present day a good medium size, with powerful frame, beautiful lines, and a nobly formed head. Clean and sinewy in build, the entire dog was one live wire. His character was on a par with his exterior qualities; marvelous in his obedient fidelity to his master, and above all else, the straightforward nature of a gentleman with a boundless zest for living. Although untrained in puppy hood, nevertheless obedient to the slightest nod when at this master's side; but when left to himself, the maddest rascal, the wildest ruffian and incorrigible provoker of strife. Never idle, always on the go; well disposed to harmless people, but no cringer, mad about children and always in love. What could not have been the accomplishments of such a dog if we, at that time, had only had military or police service training? His faults were the failings of his upbringing, never of his stock. He suffered from a superfluity of unemployed energy, for he was in Heaven when someone was occupied with him and was then the most tractable of dog." ~Captain von Stephanitz Originator of the breed

Thank you to the one amazing person who helped me with this -- you know who you are, I am forever your friend

[Freestep]

You should be able to trace any GSD back to Hektor, I think. He was one of the founders of the breed.

I could spend hours on PDB! I love that they now show 8-generation linebreeding.

[Jo Ellen]

I know, they all go back to Hektor, he was the first registered GSD. I just think it's amazing we are keeping those kinds of records. I could not easily, or at all??, trace my lineage back that many generations.

I love the description of Hektor ... .the maddest rascal, incorrigable provoker of strife

[Whiteshepherds]

Originally Posted by Freestep

You should be able to trace any GSD back to Hektor, I think. He was one of the founders of the breed.

Some of the dogs go back to Luch. (or Luchs?) Horands littermate.

[Doc]

Yes Virginia, there were shepherd dogs before Horand ...

[Whiteshepherds]

Originally Posted by Doc

Yes Virginia, there were shepherd dogs before Horand ...

How many generations before Horand were eventually entered registered in the SV Doc, if you know? (I see great grandsires/granddams but with higher SV numbers.)

[breyer08]

How awesome that there is a pedigree database!!! I am really into genealogy, and I've found ancestry.com to be an invaluable resource, but I never knew that a similar thing existed for dogs!

I have been wondering: how many generations of one breed are generally needed for a dog to be considered "purebred"?

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by Whiteshepherds

Some of the dogs go back to Luch. (or Luchs?) Horands littermate.

Interesting point to ponder, I wonder how many GSDs alive today would NOT trace back to Horand? And would that be significant?

[lhczth]

I doubt you will find a single GSD alive today that does not go back on Horand.

[jocoyn]

It seems folks are a lot more meticulous with keeping up with the father lines than the mother lines. All my dogs have gone back to Horand on the male line.

Most of my dogs' mother lines were not listed before WWII or the 1920s but Beau goes back to before Horand with Salli von der Krone.