What can you tell me?

johnnyhotshot · 11-09-2012, 02:27 PM

I'm so confused with pedigrees... can someone tell me what to expect from this pair?

Sire: GCH CH (US) Wolf Creek Galaxy Of Merivern

Dam: CH (US) Woodsides Macy

cliffson1 · 11-09-2012, 04:11 PM

That this dog will have a nice side gait....look at the position of We Love du Chien R man, in both parents pedigree....some would say that is too closely bred...but that is how they do it in the show world.

**Castlemaid** · 11-09-2012, 05:05 PM

Here is the pedigree for a pup out of these two:
Line-breeding for the progency of GCH CH (US) Wolf Creek Galaxy Of Merivern and CH (US) Woodsides Macy

American Showlines. Dogs in both pedigrees have many Conformation titles, but I don't see any performance titles listed (doesn't mean they don't have any, maybe they were just not put in by the person who entered the data).

Unless someone here knows some of these dogs personally, it might be hard to be able to tell anything from the pedigrees as conformation titles alone will only tell you about their conformation, and not about their temperament.

Very few hip ratings listed in the pedigree, nothing listed for the Dam. I'd check the OFA website and research the family line for hip health.

**lhczth** · 11-09-2012, 05:31 PM

Definitely a pedigree for the American conformation ring. A number of ROM and champions. Andaka (Daphne) can probably tell you quite a bit about the pedigree and the dogs.

dogfaeries · 11-09-2012, 05:47 PM

I have a bitch out of Wolf Creek Lyra of Merivern, who is a full sister to Wolf Creek Galaxy of Merivern. My girl is lovely - stable temperament, fabulous mover.

This Galaxy dog went Best of Breed at our club's specialty in May. I liked him! He's a nice mover. Masculine dog.

He's also a full brother to the 2010 Grand Victrix, Wolf Creek Aquilla of Merivern.

That's all I know!

Xeph · 11-09-2012, 08:11 PM

I'd be a bit iffy on this pedigree due to the linebreeding on Dallas, R-Man (Dallas' sire), and Jag of Fran Jo

cliffson1 · 11-10-2012, 09:50 AM

So what will line breeding on these dogs strengthen/lessen.?...I am not familiar with the traits of these dogs except for gaiting.

Xeph · 11-12-2012, 03:53 PM

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So what will line breeding on these dogs strengthen/lessen.?

Health is an issue.

Dallas died of a stroke at 10
R-Man had a "mysterious" death that was never divulged
Jag passed at around ten (possibly younger)

wolfstraum · 11-12-2012, 04:16 PM

are the ASL show breeders doing the same thing with Dallas that they did with Lance of Fran Jo??

Tried to look up a pedigree of an ASL - it is so annoying that you can't rely on litter letters LOL LOL

the line breeding on this pedigree is a bit heavy no matter what the lines...

Lee

Xeph · 11-12-2012, 05:09 PM

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are the ASL show breeders doing the same thing with Dallas that they did with Lance of Fran Jo??

Pretty much.

I am happy to say I have two Dallas free girls in my house.

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the line breeding on this pedigree is a bit heavy no matter what the lines...

I agree

11-09-2012, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
johnnyhotshot New Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3	What can you tell me? I'm so confused with pedigrees... can someone tell me what to expect from this pair? Sire: GCH CH (US) Wolf Creek Galaxy Of Merivern Dam: CH (US) Woodsides Macy

11-09-2012, 05:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Castlemaid The Administrator from the Great White North, eh? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 11,182	Here is the pedigree for a pup out of these two: Line-breeding for the progency of GCH CH (US) Wolf Creek Galaxy Of Merivern and CH (US) Woodsides Macy American Showlines. Dogs in both pedigrees have many Conformation titles, but I don't see any performance titles listed (doesn't mean they don't have any, maybe they were just not put in by the person who entered the data). Unless someone here knows some of these dogs personally, it might be hard to be able to tell anything from the pedigrees as conformation titles alone will only tell you about their conformation, and not about their temperament. Very few hip ratings listed in the pedigree, nothing listed for the Dam. I'd check the OFA website and research the family line for hip health. __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH

11-09-2012, 05:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,725	Definitely a pedigree for the American conformation ring. A number of ROM and champions. Andaka (Daphne) can probably tell you quite a bit about the pedigree and the dogs. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

11-09-2012, 05:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
dogfaeries Master Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma City metro Posts: 986	I have a bitch out of Wolf Creek Lyra of Merivern, who is a full sister to Wolf Creek Galaxy of Merivern. My girl is lovely - stable temperament, fabulous mover. This Galaxy dog went Best of Breed at our club's specialty in May. I liked him! He's a nice mover. Masculine dog. He's also a full brother to the 2010 Grand Victrix, Wolf Creek Aquilla of Merivern. That's all I know! __________________ ~ Diane in Okla Carly - AKC CH, Herding Instinct Certificate Sage - Ch. pointed, Herding Instinct Certificate Russell - GSD puppy

11-09-2012, 08:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Xeph Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 5,162	I'd be a bit iffy on this pedigree due to the linebreeding on Dallas, R-Man (Dallas' sire), and Jag of Fran Jo __________________ Jackie and the Marcato Shepherds (and one cat) Strauss: The service dog Mirada: The Mogwai Wesson: The girl with a boy's name Mahler: The sporty sable Vixie: The plucky show girl Barrett: The Frikken Tikken

11-09-2012, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,872	That this dog will have a nice side gait....look at the position of We Love du Chien R man, in both parents pedigree....some would say that is too closely bred...but that is how they do it in the show world.

11-10-2012, 09:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,872	So what will line breeding on these dogs strengthen/lessen.?...I am not familiar with the traits of these dogs except for gaiting.

11-12-2012, 04:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 8,209	are the ASL show breeders doing the same thing with Dallas that they did with Lance of Fran Jo?? Tried to look up a pedigree of an ASL - it is so annoying that you can't rely on litter letters LOL LOL the line breeding on this pedigree is a bit heavy no matter what the lines... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Komet, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB~ Kougar Sch3, Kyra Sch3, Cito Sch2, Alice Sch1, Kelsey CD, Ret ~ Basha Sch3, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

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