Thoughts on this WGWL AND WGSL?

[Espo4442]

Looking for some opinions on an up coming litter of VA-Ulka v Lastal (VA(A)V47 BSZS 2010 Ulka vom Lastal) and V Bandi Vom Wolfheim (V Bandit vom Wolfsheim)?
Thoughts on what type of pigmentation one would expect and temperaments?

[PatchonGSD]

You might want to check out this thread, lol. Showline/Workingline crosses?

I'm no expert, but I will say, I do not like the female just by looking at her.

[qbchottu]

To be fair, Ulka is completely out of coat and pregnant (?) in that picture.

Here she is in coat and in show condition:
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-V17-ghkl-h
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-03

She will always have a tight coat for a SL, but she is not a bad female by any means.

Email Molly Graf (the owner of the female and breeder) and ask her for an honest answer. She would be able to offer insight into why she paired these two and what she expects as far as conformation and temperament.

[Espo4442]

I have spoken to Molly but was looking to see what some outside opinions were. I'm not a huge fan of the Dam either but I think with the mix she might deliver some good looking sables, but then again I could be completely wrong.

Originally Posted by qbchottu

To be fair, Ulka is completely out of coat and pregnant (?) in that picture.

Here she is in coat and in show condition:
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-V17-ghkl-h
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-03

She will always have a tight coat for a SL, but she is not a bad female by any means.

Email Molly Graf (the owner of the female and breeder) and ask her for an honest answer. She would be able to offer insight into why she paired these two and what she expects as far as conformation and temperament.

[cliffson1]

4-4 on Eros and 5-5 on Cello is good SL breeding, but mixing with Bandit?....very, very, interesting.

[PatchonGSD]

Originally Posted by qbchottu

To be fair, Ulka is completely out of coat and pregnant (?) in that picture.

Here she is in coat and in show condition:
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-V17-ghkl-h
Landesgruppezuchtschau Bayern Nord/Eschenbach 18 luglio 2010/ulka-vom-lastal-03

She will always have a tight coat for a SL, but she is not a bad female by any means.

Email Molly Graf (the owner of the female and breeder) and ask her for an honest answer. She would be able to offer insight into why she paired these two and what she expects as far as conformation and temperament.

LOL well thats why I am not an expert. I cant believe she looks so different "in coat."

[qbchottu]

Originally Posted by Espo4442

I have spoken to Molly

If you don't mind, what was her reasoning and expectations for the breeding?

[Espo4442]

Originally Posted by qbchottu

If you don't mind, what was her reasoning and expectations for the breeding?

I haven't asked her outright yet but her website states "high drives and outgoing, forward stable temperaments" I'm guessing for Good looks and solid nerves?

Cliffson- Since I'm new the pedigree reading could you tell me what you mean by good SL breeding? (4-4 on Eros and 5-5 on Cello is good SL breeding, but mixing with Bandit?....very, very, interesting)

I originally when to visit her to see another litter of all WGSL's and she stated that even tho they were show line they were very capable working dogs as well. My question is, is that possible?

[Liesje]

Hmmm I actually like the female, not that particular picture of her but don't see anything I can't stand as far as her overall structure and I kind of like the pedigree.

[Espo4442]

Molly stated that she's had very good results with crossing Bandit to several show-line dogs. Nice temperaments and drives. "With out the too-high drives for some people who want an active family dog or one to do agility with.