Showline/Workingline crosses?

PatchonGSD · 11-04-2012, 09:44 PM

Who here has one and why did you choose the cross?
Please post a photo and/or pedigree.

What are the general opinions on these dogs?

GatorDog · 11-04-2012, 10:05 PM

Aiden vom HausDaka

WGSL/WGWL cross

I received Aiden at 5 months when he was returned to the breeder because his first owner didn't like him, so he wasn't chosen/purchased intentionally. He's very sweet and settles wonderfully in the house, but has extremely serious aggression/defense in IPO. Very little prey drive. Great tracker. Very handler sensitive. Love of my life

I'd love to hear any insight to his pedigree (if there is anything to say)

Freestep · 11-04-2012, 10:17 PM

Gatordog, Aiden is very handsome! He sounds like a good, balanced dog with the good traits of each line.

**jocoyn** · 11-04-2012, 10:25 PM

And I got the other half-the worst traits from each line in Toby.

Not the same breeding but it was a Czech sire to a West German Highlines bitch and never again. Loved the dog, but he was a gangly poorly put together bag of nerves.

GatorDog · 11-04-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Freestep

Gatordog, Aiden is very handsome! He sounds like a good, balanced dog with the good traits of each line.

He's a great boy, but he is not totally balanced. He has had some reactivity (hackles at strange dogs/some random people and afraid of children) and I think his prey/food/toy drive should be higher, since he really could take it or leave it. We've had serious confidence issues since the day I started training him, but I'm not too sure if it is due to genetics/nerve or the way I started his foundation in training (the wrong way). Although he may not have crazy prey/food/toy drive, he learns very quickly.

llombardo · 11-04-2012, 10:56 PM

I'm 99.999% sure mine is American/German. I believe mom was american and dad was german working lines. She has a medium to high prey drive, she is toy and food motivated, loves and does well in agility, and she did well with the schutzhund(didn't keep pursuing it) She has the bitch stripe, which I believe is strictly a german line thing. Her tan has quite a bit of red in it, so in certain pictures she looks more red then tan. I don't know if she's done changing yet??? She has definitely gotten the best of traits in each line. She isn't dog aggressive, human aggressive...she is just very neutral. I wish I knew so I could get 10 more of her. I love her temperament, her looks, personality, just everything...yep I'm hooked and feel that she has stolen my heart

elisabeth_00117 · 11-04-2012, 11:12 PM

Stark is a cross as well : Wild Winds Archangel Raphael

Sire is WG/DDR working lines and his mother is Can./WG showlines.

He is a very low drive, medium/low energy male. He was quite reactive to people when he was younger and although that is not an issue anymore, I still do not fully trust him with unknown children and watch him very carefully and am very selective on who can greet him.

He shuts down with any pressure which is why we had to stop training in schutzhund with him. He is extremely handler sensitive. If I yell something to my sister in the other room, he will come and do this submissive jumping on me.

On the flip side - he is a great companion, settles wonderfully in the house and is very calm when out and about in the world. He is always willing to try anything I ask and enjoys just being with me.

He recently earned his TT (Temperament Test) certificate and excels at herding. He can remain calm and clear headed when working and doesn't jump into drive when the sheep move. The trainers really like him and if I could find somewhere to train regularly, I have no doubts he could do well. He also knows a lot of "service" jobs as my cousin has MD and is wheelchair bound and Stark has helped him turn lights on/off, pick up and carry items, brought items to him, open doors and cupboards, etc... very smart guy, who can learn almost anything asked.

I love my boy more than the sun, but I will never get another cross.

cliffson1 · 11-05-2012, 07:38 AM

What seems to be common denominator in most of these cases?

robinhuerta · 11-05-2012, 07:53 AM

Popular or not......I will be doing a "cross-breeding" of WL x SL.
I need to bring in new genetics into my SL breeding dogs....
I plan on keeping back a female from the breeding for myself.....so time will tell, if the combination was/is successful.

PatchonGSD · 11-05-2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinhuerta

Popular or not......I will be doing a "cross-breeding" of WL x SL.
I need to bring in new genetics into my SL breeding dogs....
I plan on keeping back a female from the breeding for myself.....so time will tell, if the combination was/is successful.

Hi Robin!

Just wondering (maybe this is a dumb question) but why did you choose to bring in a WL for new genetics, instead of more SL?

11-04-2012, 09:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
PatchonGSD Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,514	Showline/Workingline crosses? Who here has one and why did you choose the cross? Please post a photo and/or pedigree. What are the general opinions on these dogs? __________________ Balen Patchon Adopted 8-28-12 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1275860 Failure is success, if you learn from it.

11-04-2012, 10:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
GatorDog Knighted Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 2,934	Aiden vom HausDaka WGSL/WGWL cross I received Aiden at 5 months when he was returned to the breeder because his first owner didn't like him, so he wasn't chosen/purchased intentionally. He's very sweet and settles wonderfully in the house, but has extremely serious aggression/defense in IPO. Very little prey drive. Great tracker. Very handler sensitive. Love of my life I'd love to hear any insight to his pedigree (if there is anything to say) __________________ -Alexis Aiden vom HausDaka - (HOT) CGC, TT, IPO2 Carma vom Oz Haus - puppy in training! http://sharpshepherd.wordpress.com// Last edited by GatorDog; 11-04-2012 at 10:11 PM.

11-04-2012, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,077	And I got the other half-the worst traits from each line in Toby. Not the same breeding but it was a Czech sire to a West German Highlines bitch and never again. Loved the dog, but he was a gangly poorly put together bag of nerves. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

11-04-2012, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
llombardo Crowned Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,139	I'm 99.999% sure mine is American/German. I believe mom was american and dad was german working lines. She has a medium to high prey drive, she is toy and food motivated, loves and does well in agility, and she did well with the schutzhund(didn't keep pursuing it) She has the bitch stripe, which I believe is strictly a german line thing. Her tan has quite a bit of red in it, so in certain pictures she looks more red then tan. I don't know if she's done changing yet??? She has definitely gotten the best of traits in each line. She isn't dog aggressive, human aggressive...she is just very neutral. I wish I knew so I could get 10 more of her. I love her temperament, her looks, personality, just everything...yep I'm hooked and feel that she has stolen my heart __________________ Misty- Samoyed Mix Tannor- Golden Retriever CGC Robyn- German Shepherd CGC Midnite-German Shepherd "A dog is the only thing on this earth that loves you more than he loves himself." Last edited by llombardo; 11-04-2012 at 10:58 PM.

11-04-2012, 11:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 8,416	Stark is a cross as well : Wild Winds Archangel Raphael Sire is WG/DDR working lines and his mother is Can./WG showlines. He is a very low drive, medium/low energy male. He was quite reactive to people when he was younger and although that is not an issue anymore, I still do not fully trust him with unknown children and watch him very carefully and am very selective on who can greet him. He shuts down with any pressure which is why we had to stop training in schutzhund with him. He is extremely handler sensitive. If I yell something to my sister in the other room, he will come and do this submissive jumping on me. On the flip side - he is a great companion, settles wonderfully in the house and is very calm when out and about in the world. He is always willing to try anything I ask and enjoys just being with me. He recently earned his TT (Temperament Test) certificate and excels at herding. He can remain calm and clear headed when working and doesn't jump into drive when the sheep move. The trainers really like him and if I could find somewhere to train regularly, I have no doubts he could do well. He also knows a lot of "service" jobs as my cousin has MD and is wheelchair bound and Stark has helped him turn lights on/off, pick up and carry items, brought items to him, open doors and cupboards, etc... very smart guy, who can learn almost anything asked. I love my boy more than the sun, but I will never get another cross. __________________ Battleborn Hundesport K-W German Shepherd Club Last edited by elisabeth_00117; 11-04-2012 at 11:15 PM.

11-04-2012, 10:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Freestep Crowned Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,201	Gatordog, Aiden is very handsome! He sounds like a good, balanced dog with the good traits of each line.

11-05-2012, 07:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,944	What seems to be common denominator in most of these cases?

11-05-2012, 07:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
robinhuerta Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,516	Popular or not......I will be doing a "cross-breeding" of WL x SL. I need to bring in new genetics into my SL breeding dogs.... I plan on keeping back a female from the breeding for myself.....so time will tell, if the combination was/is successful. __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

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