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Old 10-28-2012, 09:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am just trying to learn more about pedigrees also. On my dogs Sire's side I have Vito and Tom also. =)
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I owned this dog -- Bodan Bodan Aus Der Karpatenvorland , a friend still owns his siter Brie and did breed her to a male that I had , Iwo , here is a progeny Fraserglens Moto

I was hoping for a closer resemblance to the dam, Vita Safko, rather than the sire side which is Rodan . Bodan was not what I was looking for as a sire type . I placed him with an exceptional home where he is pampered , happy , as you can see by the picture.
The female, Brie, on the other hand is more like her dam, Vita and has produced some nice animals .
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Very cool carmspack! What was it about bodan that you weren't happy with? What kind of traits came down from rodan vs vita?

This is very interesting and cool to find people who know/owned very close relatives of Odin's sire!
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have not care much for some of the dogs I have seen coming down from Rocky Zingelgärten (direct sons). Some good, some a little thin nerved. I have never cared much for Aik Haus Cindy himself. He did nothing for me when I saw him and I didn't like some of the dogs coming from him (sons) so I have avoided his line.

Anyone who knows me knows I hate Dasty Gries (sire of Randa Karthago). Randa seemed to produce well, though, but I had an extremely negative experience with the Dasty line (horrible, horrible nerves) so I tend to avoid him. He is a ways back in your dog, but I am still leery.

As I said, it is just personal dislikes. I am sure there are others that will disagree with me.
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When I first looked on my phone I could only see the first 3 generations. I went back and looked and see Escobar in there as well. I didn't know Escobar, but know probably a dozen of his children or grandchildren. Stable temperments and good noses!
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I have not care much for some of the dogs I have seen coming down from Rocky Zingelgärten (direct sons). Some good, some a little thin nerved. I have never cared much for Aik Haus Cindy himself. He did nothing for me when I saw him and I didn't like some of the dogs coming from him (sons) so I have avoided his line.

Anyone who knows me knows I hate Dasty Gries (sire of Randa Karthago). Randa seemed to produce well, though, but I had an extremely negative experience with the Dasty line (horrible, horrible nerves) so I tend to avoid him. He is a ways back in your dog, but I am still leery.

As I said, it is just personal dislikes. I am sure there are others that will disagree with me.
Very cool to know, that could be where some of the "insecurity" comes from. I wouldn't call Odin thin nerved, he's just not as "tough" as say my younger male. It's really neat to hear about some of these things that may have come from some of his lines. I remember talking to Havoc's breeder about Odin and she was pretty surprised I was looking for "more" dog when I already had a Vito grandson. So I kinda figured there may be some thinner nerved dogs back in his pedigree on the sire side.
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I've seen some quite weak nerves from a litter out of a Rocky daughter, so I'm wary about him as well.
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When I first looked on my phone I could only see the first 3 generations. I went back and looked and see Escobar in there as well. I didn't know Escobar, but know probably a dozen of his children or grandchildren. Stable temperments and good noses!
It's funny you say about the good noses Odin LOVES tracking, has an exceptional nose and crazy good hunt drive! I'm sure Escobar is far back enough that it wouldn't influence that much but still funny you say that.
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