phgsd, great charts! Thank you.
Carmen, I regret that the other topic did not go further. I had my "notebook" out and was hoping to learn more modern dogs who tend to be representative of each of the founding regional types.
Back to this topic, I get that each sire line is SUPPOSED to represent something different. But what I do not get is how can looking solely at the sire line tell you about the dog? I say this because I have read some (not you) who purport to attribute traits to czech lines based upon these "bloodlines." While I personally believe knowing the bloodlines (back beyond a few generations) is valuable, I am having a hard time comprehending that these sire lines alone predict traits in this day and age. The further back these dogs are in a pedigree, the MORE dogs are in the pedigree and the more influences there are outside of the sire line. Indeed, what about the female lines?
As reflected in phgsd's charts, Bernd Lierberg is within Rolf's sire line. Is Bernd representative of Rolf? If a male is not a representative of the founder's bloodline - which in the case of Bernd I suspect he is not - what good is characterizing the dogs by a particular male bloodline? Don't get me wrong, I believe bloodlines are important, but I believe a focus on the entire pedigree - and a focus on the characteristics of the actual dogs in the first few generations as they are a product of what is behind them - is what is important. Those are the humble beliefs of a guy who has never bred a single litter and will likely never do so . . . .