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Old 09-25-2012, 12:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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No, That ad was posted by someone else, a horrible vial ********of a person who is actually a member here. They copied my ad that I had posted on the PDB and THEY posted it on KiiJii in an attempt to make me look bad. I had a short waiting list and only had a couple to place hence the reason I posted an ad on PDB.

No, I do not feel any of these people will back out.

I am done here. These type of things is the reason that I don't post here often. I take it none of you have any knowledge of either pedigree. Thank you for the other input.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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How can the same ad that was run on the pdb make you look bad on kiji?

Because it was on kiji, that makes you look bad?
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posting this doesn't make you look bad?


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Old 09-25-2012, 12:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yes, because they felt that posting it on KiiJii would hurt my reputation as a breeder. It didn't. I requested kiiJii to take it down but they refused since I wasn't the one that put the ad up. I don't really care what that appears to other people. She is a horrible person, I have the emails to prove it.

Anyway, Mods, why don't we lock this one? Obviously no one has any input on the pedigree so there is no point to the thread anymore. Other than people digging around for "gold".
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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All internet shenanigans aside and commenting on only what you requested, the male has, in my opinion, the better of the two pedigrees. Neither contains the "big names" in working today but that is not a bad thing. We need these open lines to bring into the heavily saturated popular lines now and again. In terms of combining the two I would be concerned that (since this is an outcross) you take into consideration the second and third generations. While the two dogs you are considering breeding sound like they would compliment each other nicely, I would look also at their parents and grandparents. Their genetic contributions will be just as, if not moreso, indiciative of what you can expect from the breeding. If that looks good to you after you have researched it (which you very well may have already) then you will be in a good position to decide whether or not you wish to continue at that point. The bottom line is that regardless of what others think, you own the dog and the decision to breed or not breed lies with you alone. My suggestions can be taken or tossed aside, no ill will from me either way. My opinions are just that, my personal thoughts from where I sit and the picture I view from here. Your view may be much better than mine. Either way good luck in your decision making and when you do decide to trial, best of luck.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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am a bit disappointed that a moderator was allowed to take a thread off track and cause drama.
was not my intent to cause drama, simply stating my opinion as mods are allowed to voice their opinions

Just a reminder pseudo swearing is not allowed, especially such a nasty one , I'msure the mod in this section will remove it soon.

You got your critique above, good luck with your decision.
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Thank you Import.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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All internet shenanigans aside and commenting on only what you requested, the male has, in my opinion, the better of the two pedigrees. Neither contains the "big names" in working today but that is not a bad thing. We need these open lines to bring into the heavily saturated popular lines now and again. In terms of combining the two I would be concerned that (since this is an outcross) you take into consideration the second and third generations. While the two dogs you are considering breeding sound like they would compliment each other nicely, I would look also at their parents and grandparents. Their genetic contributions will be just as, if not moreso, indiciative of what you can expect from the breeding. If that looks good to you after you have researched it (which you very well may have already) then you will be in a good position to decide whether or not you wish to continue at that point. The bottom line is that regardless of what others think, you own the dog and the decision to breed or not breed lies with you alone. My suggestions can be taken or tossed aside, no ill will from me either way. My opinions are just that, my personal thoughts from where I sit and the picture I view from here. Your view may be much better than mine. Either way good luck in your decision making and when you do decide to trial, best of luck.
Very well stated.

My thoughts were that I didn't see any compelling reason on a paper basis that the 2 dogs would go well together or not--so you need to depend strongly on knowledge of the actual dogs--and their parents.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:03 AM   #29 (permalink)
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My exact sentiments as Blackthorn or Import, I saw nothing compelling either positive or negative....open breeding....most important aspect is intimate knowledge of parents and grandparents....but very difficult to affix specifics to this breeding.
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