Please tell me is this Czech, DDR, European or ??

ponyfarm · 09-23-2012, 05:34 PM

Could you pedigree experts tell me what my pup would be considered? My friends ask me is he czech, DDR , etc...and well, I have no clue.

Obviously, not showline, but I cant get the working lines straight in my mind!

I enjoy reading the threads discussing the differences in the types and would love to know what my guy is to compare/contrast too!

Thanks!

**jocoyn** · 09-23-2012, 05:50 PM

do you have a pedigree?

wildo · 09-23-2012, 05:55 PM

Here is Max's pedigree: Max Von Zahnderhaus - German Shepherd Dog

ponyfarm · 09-23-2012, 06:26 PM

LOL..Wildo..I forgot the link!

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...tml?id=1353416

wildo · 09-23-2012, 06:31 PM

Ponyfarm- isn't Max's full name Maximum? I thought it was odd you had him listed as only Max in PDB.

On a more on-topic note. There's so much Jabina in Max's pedigree. I tried to find out what lines the Jabina Kennel uses, but was unsuccessful. I got some google cached results that indicated Czech, but I couldn't find anything definitive. And even if Jabina is Czech, that's only one side... There's still Uzi's side. I thought Eurosport was a big German importer (I'm inferring West German Working Lines here) but again- I'm not 100% on that. In fact, it's pretty much pure speculation on my part- LOL!

**Castlemaid** · 09-23-2012, 06:40 PM

You have some very nice lines in your dog, ponyfarm - Mostly West German with some Czech Border Patrol lines.
(My opinion on the lines rests solely on the fact that some of the lines are also present in Gryffon's pedigree).

I believe Jabina kennels is all West German. Many of the dogs or lines in Max's pedigree are also in Gryffons - makes for a nice, social, balanced dog. A top-level Canadian SchH competitor asked to see Gryffon's pedigree once, and commented that he had spent some time working with Jabina kennels - nice dogs, he commented - always happy and wanting to please.

I'm not an expert though - hope to be corrected if I'm wrong.

**lhczth** · 09-23-2012, 06:44 PM

Jabina is in Denmark and they use primarily German, Dutch, Belgian working lines.
www.jabina.dk>>Working Dog Kennel

Eurosport imports mostly Czech ( and Slovak?) dogs. Erri was Mike Diehl's competition dog until he was injured. Erri has a mix of WGWL and Czech (I didn't go way back in his pedigree). The granddam appears to be primarily Czech (maybe Slovak since I don't totally understand all of the registry letters) with a little DDR/West behind Barinja Cega.
..::Eurosport K-9 Training and Import Services

Rerun · 09-23-2012, 06:56 PM

Yes Eurosport imports slovak dogs - I only know this because I know several who were imported via Eurosport and are Slovak.

BlackthornGSD · 09-23-2012, 07:03 PM

Yes, Jabina is a Danish kennel that produces very good sport/working dogs, using a lot of top German and Belgian dogs.

The motherline on this dog is Czech with just a little bit of German working lines behind her (Dingo Conneforde).

wildo · 09-23-2012, 07:06 PM

Well... I had a good guess! I was just backwards! lol!

09-23-2012, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
ponyfarm Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 992	Please tell me is this Czech, DDR, European or ?? Could you pedigree experts tell me what my pup would be considered? My friends ask me is he czech, DDR , etc...and well, I have no clue. Obviously, not showline, but I cant get the working lines straight in my mind! I enjoy reading the threads discussing the differences in the types and would love to know what my guy is to compare/contrast too! Thanks!

09-23-2012, 05:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,077	do you have a pedigree? __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

09-23-2012, 05:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
wildo Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,166	Here is Max's pedigree: Max Von Zahnderhaus - German Shepherd Dog __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL3, CL2, CL1, UJJ (x2), HIT, CA, CGC High Jinks vom Neuanfang - DOB 9/12 (Gotchya Day: 1/23/2013) agility superstar in training

09-23-2012, 06:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
wildo Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,166	Ponyfarm- isn't Max's full name Maximum? I thought it was odd you had him listed as only Max in PDB. On a more on-topic note. There's so much Jabina in Max's pedigree. I tried to find out what lines the Jabina Kennel uses, but was unsuccessful. I got some google cached results that indicated Czech, but I couldn't find anything definitive. And even if Jabina is Czech, that's only one side... There's still Uzi's side. I thought Eurosport was a big German importer (I'm inferring West German Working Lines here) but again- I'm not 100% on that. In fact, it's pretty much pure speculation on my part- LOL! __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL3, CL2, CL1, UJJ (x2), HIT, CA, CGC High Jinks vom Neuanfang - DOB 9/12 (Gotchya Day: 1/23/2013) agility superstar in training

09-23-2012, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Castlemaid The Administrator from the Great White North, eh? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 11,300	You have some very nice lines in your dog, ponyfarm - Mostly West German with some Czech Border Patrol lines. (My opinion on the lines rests solely on the fact that some of the lines are also present in Gryffon's pedigree). I believe Jabina kennels is all West German. Many of the dogs or lines in Max's pedigree are also in Gryffons - makes for a nice, social, balanced dog. A top-level Canadian SchH competitor asked to see Gryffon's pedigree once, and commented that he had spent some time working with Jabina kennels - nice dogs, he commented - always happy and wanting to please. I'm not an expert though - hope to be corrected if I'm wrong. __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH Last edited by Castlemaid; 09-23-2012 at 06:46 PM.

09-23-2012, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
ponyfarm Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 992	LOL..Wildo..I forgot the link! http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...tml?id=1353416

09-23-2012, 06:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,807	Jabina is in Denmark and they use primarily German, Dutch, Belgian working lines. www.jabina.dk>>Working Dog Kennel Eurosport imports mostly Czech ( and Slovak?) dogs. Erri was Mike Diehl's competition dog until he was injured. Erri has a mix of WGWL and Czech (I didn't go way back in his pedigree). The granddam appears to be primarily Czech (maybe Slovak since I don't totally understand all of the registry letters) with a little DDR/West behind Barinja Cega. ..::Eurosport K-9 Training and Import Services __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

09-23-2012, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rerun Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,990	Yes Eurosport imports slovak dogs - I only know this because I know several who were imported via Eurosport and are Slovak.

09-23-2012, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
BlackthornGSD Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 1,428	Yes, Jabina is a Danish kennel that produces very good sport/working dogs, using a lot of top German and Belgian dogs. The motherline on this dog is Czech with just a little bit of German working lines behind her (Dingo Conneforde). __________________ Christine Blackthorn Working German Shepherds

09-23-2012, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
wildo Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,166	Well... I had a good guess! I was just backwards! lol! __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL3, CL2, CL1, UJJ (x2), HIT, CA, CGC High Jinks vom Neuanfang - DOB 9/12 (Gotchya Day: 1/23/2013) agility superstar in training

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