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Old 08-28-2012, 03:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My puppy Mack is the product of both parents being of Kirschental bloodline. Ive tried to look up as much as I could. Some say that this line has a mix of German Working and Show.. Just trying to understand my pup better. He is actually great..better than I could have hoped for. Im just fascinated with all the lines and the work that go into them. Does anyone have some answers on what Kirshental line are like vs other blood lines? Pros vs Cons? Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you read the website for Kirschental kennels? Much has been translated into English.

http://www.kirschental.de/
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the old female line used by this kennel, ( descending back to Blanka vom Mummelsee ), is quite a good one. Very willing dogs with what some call "genetic obedience" in high doses. Dogs with the ability to hear their handler and quite responsive to simple praise. The many I worked, who had this female line, did the work for the satisfaction of working. I think this is maybe difficult for people to understand now, that a dog can get drive satisfaction in the work itself, without being bribed or constantly "rewarded' with with food, toys and grips. The work was the reward. I have always viewed it as a very strong female line that has a strong influence, even when bred to lines with less working ability. That is what I have seen anyway . When bred with strong working lines, simply super.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Is Kirschental considered working line or show?
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Lisa, I did find that webpage..I was just looking for a little more info from people that have had personal experience with this line. Thanks for the replies..It helps.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Years ago, it was considered a working line, (HGH /herding), when herding was actually really herding and not just a "show". Especially, ( as he mentions in the "History" section of the web site Lisa provided), the breeding with Uwe and before that.
Later on, he started breeding pretty heavily into show lines.
I think nowadays, it is associated more with show lines because of the direction the breeder went in. I haven't see tons of dogs from this kennel nowadays but what I said, I found to be the case some years back. I think he could get away with using what might have been a lesser male with that female line but again, herding in Germany is not what it once was...according to those who really did it .
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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My friend used to tell me that she thought my rescue GSD had Kirschental lines in her-she just really wanted to be trained and enjoyed it-I emailed Marion once and she responded -bet she would give you info if you e-mailed her
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I would call Kirschental show lines now. Herr Fuller is actually ill and his wife Marion is in the process of selling their dogs so it is the end of an era.

My Nikon's dam is from Kirschental (carries the kennel name and was imported). She was born when her dam was 10 years old, so this brings some good blood (some of the working stuff Herr Fuller originally used) closer up in Nikon's pedigree. The motherline is definitely the strength of his pedigree. His sire is not from Kirschental but another German show kennel with more typical lines that are popular today.
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I didnt realize he was that ill and she was selling the dogs. All good things must come to an end, but I do hope that there are breeders out there that will keep this line going and do it justice. Im really just blown away by my dog. I do remember seeing his mother and father..the mom ruled, was kinda funny actually. I would get another in a heartbeat and I just stumble upon this breeder thats been doing it for 25 years in upstate NY.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Traumhof has a lot of imported Kirschental dogs.
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