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Old 08-20-2012, 02:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Cliff look at the performance , the speed and clarity with which the dog leaves with for the first apprehension (marker 2:50)

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Trust me Carmen, I noticed ! The clearness and calmness, and power is typical of dogs you used to see. The kind of dog that is calculating the amount of power and intensity that is needed to handle situation with an ability to ratchet it up IF NECESSARY! Balance,balance,balance in all parts of the routine. The ability to handle the task and be completely tuned in to handler at same time. A pair!
No leakage of drives, reckless energy, unneeded mintensity. Just a real nice dog and routine to me.
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Trust me Carmen, I noticed ! The clearness and calmness, and power is typical of dogs you used to see. The kind of dog that is calculating the amount of power and intensity that is needed to handle situation with an ability to ratchet it up IF NECESSARY! Balance,balance,balance in all parts of the routine. The ability to handle the task and be completely tuned in to handler at same time. A pair!
No leakage of drives, reckless energy, unneeded mintensity. Just a real nice dog and routine to me.
Seriously- you guys amaze me! I wish I could watch and see what you see! Cliff- I may save that video to my phone, and if I ever see you again- I'm going to have you watch it with me and you can point out everything!
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Valkenplats is arguably one of the top 5 working kennels in Holland right now.
Glen Valkenplatz is competing in the Dutch national championship this weekend.
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Cliff, the judge also liked the dog very much, near the ideal dog in his opinion. This dog also has a sister that is competing at the championship in the swedish protectionprogram this weekend, so this litter is probably the most sucessfull as far as sportperformance goes from omar v haus valkenplatz so far.

Found another video of his obedience and protectionwork in a big IPO-competition some months ago,
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thank you carmspack for your well appreciated breakdown!!
I was thinking you'd like this pedigree...

finally found one you agree with me on :-)
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so if I wanted more information about the litter I would contact who, what web site ?
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so if I wanted more information about the litter I would contact who, what web site ?

I assume you are on working-dog.eu?

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Cliff, the judge also liked the dog very much, near the ideal dog in his opinion. This dog also has a sister that is competing at the championship in the swedish protectionprogram this weekend, so this litter is probably the most sucessfull as far as sportperformance goes from omar v haus valkenplatz so far.

Found another video of his obedience and protectionwork in a big IPO-competition some months ago,
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Arkangel can you now do a favour for me.
Years ago I was friends with a Swedish woman who went under the kennel name of Brigadens. She had a breeding to Greve Goliat "Zeb" who was police dog of the year 2000 for saving his handlers life when a stadium full of angry soccer hooligans went on rampage. His owner was unconscious and the crowd was ready to stomp on him, through chairs. This dog held every one away , fearless , until more help came. it´s a son of Jack Stiegler Hof who will be the father of the pups. Whio´s Greve Goliat ("Zeb") is his name.
You can look at Blekinge police departments homepage for some pictures of him.
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When on the homepage click on the blue button on the right : Årets polishund 2000 Ther you can find some pictures of Zeb and some text on Swedish :-)
Generally it says that he has incrediable drives, strong fight and that he never gives up.
He was awarded "policedog of year 2000" because he is a an absolute complete policedog with super tracking ability and work in crimescenes.
His pedigree is.


Fels v Kemmlerblick - Lex Aspenhaus
Dux v Zinnsteig
Elfe vd Jahnstadt - Durbas Haus Himpel
Jack v Stiegler Hof
Golf v Ritterberg - Eggo Ammerberg
Danka Schieferschloss
Käty v Bärenbrusch - Ilka´s Duran
Whios Greve Goliat

Odin v Andershofer Ufer - Frei Baruther Land
Silverpilens Nix
Silverpilens öja -Pilfalkens Qroy - Cito vd Sandhol - Aro Worringer Reitweg - Vello Sieben Faulen
Whio´s Chic Cherie Ina Hembachwald -Valet Busecker Schloss
Chax Gringo
Chax Jatruice
Cherie

Im really glad your dogs are doing great, and know how proud you must be.
Looked at Rkiv on his homepage, and he sure was a beautiful boy.
Very nice expression.

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so something happened which prevented her from sending the dog? that I forget -- I am thinking maybe they were longhair and she wanted to send the "BEST"

So the next dogs we were discussing was a military dog IDEX , which needed special permission form the government to approve a breeding .

The other consideration was One of the males I´m concidering to use is named Marhöjs Kubik, he took a 280 out of 300 score on the temperament test.
You know the average is about 170p for a male.
Or his litter brother Marhöjs Kastor, Military Police dog. Only offered to selected females.
They are 4,4-5 Odin v. Andershofer Ufer.
The combination will give 5,5,6-5,5,6 on Odin v. anderhofer Ufer.
Their mother is a litter sister to Likatorps Baxe that I was considering before.
The entire Marhöjs K - litter is A hips and clear elbows as is our W - litter.
I will let you know when we have a female in heat, and what male she will be bred to if you are interested Kastor.


this takes us back 10 - 11 years ago when there was still the shock and aftermath of 2001


what are your best working lines in Sweden ?

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