Von Giliannes - Belgian breeder. spit some thoughts?

[carmspack]

Another kennel using these recognized lines Adler-Stein-Kennels-News, Los-Angeles-German-Shepherds

[carmspack]

seeing the proud announcement of Vandals dog gettting a TDX , made me think of a comment that Jocoyn made on the Anthony "find it" -- which was "Tracking for highest level competition under pressure probably not.
Having fun, maybe getting a TD or TDX I don't see why not" . Having a record number of dogs with TD's TDX's and Urban tracking dogs , I can tell you it is not easy, much more than having some fun and going out to "get" a TD or TDX . Good nerves required , otherwise the distraction and being out ahead and in the open will fold the dog. Even in schutzhund dogs seem to have difficulty with tracking -- melt downs . So congrats on your TDX - ms Vandal .

[Mrs.K]

Originally Posted by carmspack

seeing the proud announcement of Vandals dog gettting a TDX , made me think of a comment that Jocoyn made on the Anthony "find it" -- which was "Tracking for highest level competition under pressure probably not.
Having fun, maybe getting a TD or TDX I don't see why not" . Having a record number of dogs with TD's TDX's and Urban tracking dogs , I can tell you it is not easy, much more than having some fun and going out to "get" a TD or TDX . Good nerves required , otherwise the distraction and being out ahead and in the open will fold the dog. Even in schutzhund dogs seem to have difficulty with tracking -- melt downs . So congrats on your TDX - ms Vandal .

You know why?

Because most of the time it's the most neglected discipline. Most of the time people focus on obedience and protection, because it's fun. Tracking is something most do not have much passion for.
Those that really have the passion for it, like my trainer back in Germany, she was the national champion in tracking multiple times and she takes any breed, any type of dog and can use tracking to boost the confidence in a dog and put an FH1/2/3 on that dog but that is because she loves tracking. It's her thing.
I used tracking to boost Yukons confidence and he never folded or even recognized what was going on around him and he enjoyed it very much, it was his thing. It was easier for me to make him fold in agility than in tracking. Especially with food tracks (when they are that food driven as Yukon is), they can't do anything wrong and actually go from guidance to independently work it out and that is what boosts their confidence. They do something, they figure it out for themselves, they learn that they are left alone, and concentrate on the food track.

However, in Schutzhund itself, tracking is the one thing that a lot of people just want to avoid. Going out, laying that track, then coming back hours later, teaching the dog to indicate, it just seems to be the one thing that a lot of people don't like to do. So most dogs fold not because they don't have the nerves, it's because they are just not as well trained in tracking as they are in the other two sections. Plus, the limited tracking places and that more and more people don't want you on their land anymore.

At least that is my experience from years of watching.

[wolfstraum]

Originally Posted by carmspack

back to dogs that appear with regularity on very high levels performance dogs -- this one has a good source of Tom Leefdahlhof -- reminded by the FCI results and seeing Imzedrifts Niska placing so well (Swedish kennel)

So this is "Danger" I mean how much better and deeper can a bite get ? von Wolfstraum: Danger schutzhund Working German Shepherd

Imzedrift's is a Swedish kennel -- I love when he states this "Imzedrift´s is well known for breeding healthy and mentally very stable dogs – factors which are critical in this type of dogs." My priority - extremely important - the more power the more the necessity for mentally stable dogs - which are sociable and safe . Hanhundar/Males
Imzedrift's Niska - German Shepherd Dog

Thanks Carmen, Danger is an awesome awesome dog! His co-owner's first passion was SAR, so he never got past Sch1...but he has no Tom Leefdalhof...his sire was one of the last sons of Orry v Haus Antverpa....my other litters from his dam were by Tom sons, and Zender Lusondai...and interestingly, Imzedrift ended up with Q v haus Shiho, Danger's sire.

Lee

[Arkangel_BE]

I dont know where too look for but i was told that one of the males of this letter went to Canada...?

Anyone know where to ?

[tttop]

arkangel, i know where this puppy is you speak of... on vancouver island, with a relative new person to the sport. i have not seen it but a friend has and said it shows very nice potential. as i always say, tell me when its a year plus then ill take a look
i have been interested in using fado gillianes in the past, not a flashy dog but you can see the power in him