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Old 04-28-2012, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's the difference between a breeding that is a "line breeding" vs one that is not?

Pros/cons? Do any of you look for one over the other?

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"Line Breeding" just means some of the dogs are related. Generally there's considered to be a difference between in-breeding, which is breeding siblings or parent to child, and line-breeding, which is breeding more distant relatives. My pup is linebred 3-3 on Sando vom Haus Iris, which just means Sando is his great-grandfather twice. Both grandfathers are Sando sons.

Linebreeding itself isn't a good or a bad thing; it's more about which particular dogs are being bred. Obviously you don't want too much line breeding, but a certain amount is not necessarily bad.
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there is line breeding and back massing - which is line breeding behind the first 5 generations.....what is important is that the breeder knows the pros and cons of the genetics of the dogs being line bred upon.....for example when you line breed and/or backmass on a dog who is or has alot of NZ - and consistantly get several pups with poor hips - or line breed on a dog who is "known" to have/produce back problems, or temperament/nerve problems, even when the parents themselves are sound... you have to know the negatives and the positives of a line breeding.

there is more to putting a breeding together than just big names in a pedigree or how many BSP dogs are in the first 3 generations.....

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Line breeding in dogs eek. I hope that's not common. I have been keeping and breeding fish for 13 years and line breeding is very common with guppies, discus, gold fish, koi, and others. even in fish you will see problems with line breeding.

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Line-breeding is another way to help "set" or "fix" desirable traits. With line-breeding you breed animals that are related, but you are also routinely introducing genes from other lines into the genetic mix. It takes longer to fix the desirable traits this way, but doing so lowers the risk of those problems associated with repeated in-breeding. With a tight line-breeding you might find the same 3, 4 or more dogs showing up numerous times in a 5 generation pedigree.

Here's an example of a tightly line-bred pedigree (I've identified those dogs whose names show up more than once by color)Loose line-breeding over successive generations will result in more variations of physical appearance than would in-breeding or tight line-breeding, but will keep the physical look and structure within the same general size and shape, it also carries fewer long term risks.

And a sample of loose line-breeding (as with the above pedigree I'll identify dogs whose names repeat by color):

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Linebreeding is as good or as bad as the dogs linebred on.
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Interesting, thanks for the link Pepper! What does NZ and BSP stand for ?
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BSP = Bundessieger Prufung, like the German Schutzhund national championship

NZ = "noch zugelassen", an A3 rating for hip under the German system (like OFA borderline or fair).
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If a dogs sire is also the grandfather, that would be inbreeding and not line breeding, correct?
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If a dogs sire is also the grandfather, that would be inbreeding and not line breeding, correct?
How is it possible for a dog to have the same sire and grandfather?
How can your dad also be your grandfather?
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How is it possible for a dog to have the same sire and grandfather?
How can your dad also be your grandfather?


my sisters dog is a female. her father is also the father of her mother.

so her dog and her dogs mom- both have the same father.....


To me that is inbreeding- she is trying to say it is line breeding.
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